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Bradskey

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Totally Tooned In censorship and overdubbing
« on: December 20, 2014, 09:38:55 am »
Just caught some TTI on Antenna TV.  The episode had a Sparky cartoon where Yippy the pup grows into a giant dog.  This episode had some of the more egregious sequences of re-recorded dialog and ill-fitting music and sfx.  This included a rather long and tedious re-recording of dialog by Sparky's mother.  The new material was so awful and poorly done, not that there's a good way to do it.  I couldn't  discern what could have possibly been offensive about the original dialog, unless there was some dialect humor going on (oh the horror).  What is the story behind these edits?  They always seem so nonsensical, replacing loooong sequences of dialog and music with poor and cheap modern substitutes .  Surely the original audio wasn't actually lost or damaged, the Columbia cartoons are otherwise so pristine.  There's almost never any detectable reason for them, and they really are awful.  Oddly the Magoo cartoons and other UPA entries seem to go unaffected, unless I just haven't  noticed.  Its mostly the older Color Rhapsody cartoons that suffer.   

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NicKramer

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Re: Totally Tooned In censorship and overdubbing
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2014, 11:09:03 am »
From what I heard, it has something to do with music clearance.  One example, is "Animal Crackers Circus" where they had to dub most of the beginning of the whole sequence where Sparky sings "Animal Crackers in My Soup".

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Re: Totally Tooned In censorship and overdubbing
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2014, 12:31:31 pm »
Ugh geez.  I guess music rights with cartoons of this vintage never occurred to me, usually seems to be a problem with later television cartoons.

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Re: Totally Tooned In censorship and overdubbing
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2014, 08:03:24 pm »
Oddly the Magoo cartoons and other UPA entries seem to go unaffected, unless I just haven't  noticed.  Its mostly the older Color Rhapsody cartoons that suffer.   

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    "Ragtime Bear" is missing footage at the beginning, and the ending of "When Magoo Flew" is cut off. The edits must have been for time, because it wasn't anything offensive. (So why do they pad out each episode with "A Totally Toon Moment"?)

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Re: Totally Tooned In censorship and overdubbing
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2014, 12:32:14 am »
Oddly the Magoo cartoons and other UPA entries seem to go unaffected, unless I just haven't  noticed.  Its mostly the older Color Rhapsody cartoons that suffer.   

:magoo:

    "Ragtime Bear" is missing footage at the beginning, and the ending of "When Magoo Flew" is cut off. The edits must have been for time, because it wasn't anything offensive. (So why do they pad out each episode with "A Totally Toon Moment"?)

Actually, the edit on "When Magoo Flew" only happened in one "Totally Tooned In" episode.  The other episode that features this short shows it complete.

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Re: Totally Tooned In censorship and overdubbing
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2014, 06:42:47 pm »
I remember seeing a print of The Gorilla Hunt, where the hunter (voiced by Mel Blanc) suddenly switched to an overdubbed voice by Corey Burton for one scene.