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TTTP In Exile / Re: Bosko's Picture Show (1933)
« on: December 05, 2011, 03:29:47 am »
David, I think I came up with the "that dirty folk" explanation back on GAC, don't take this shot from a non-native speaker too seriously (neither do I). At this moment I'm inclined to follow Mark Kausler's hypothesis that Bosko is saying "that dirty mug" (can't find a link right now) (edit:, of course).

TTTP In Exile / Re: "Pro-disney animation" problem
« on: November 27, 2011, 02:17:33 pm »
I suggest to advise your friends from your Russian animation board to read Michael Barrier's "Hollywood Cartoons" (and/or Donald Crafton's "Before Mickey"). Essentially, the animation technique using celluloid layers over a painted background (which basically used by all of the classic animation studios beyond Winsor McCay) has been developed independently and patented by John Randolph Bray and Earl Hurd, and they gave out joint licenses for using the technique ( On the Disney shorts from 1930 on until the patents expired, you can read the line "Licensed under Bray-Hurd Patents" in the titles (e.g., From the late 1920ies on and throughout the 1930ies, the Disney Studio has been the motor refining animation and developing it further, but the artists in essence used the same techniques developed by Hurd and Bray (and their artists) back in the day. Lumping all the classic animation shorts from outfits with such different histories, as you describe, into one heap and calling them "Disney-esque" is grotesquely misleading.

TTTP In Exile / Re: Puzzling... "The Inside Story" (1944)
« on: November 15, 2011, 08:26:29 am »
The video is also available from the NIH site ( ); the version is the same as that on the site, although quality is somewhat better. Both films have the identifier "MG-4068" close to the end. According to the site, the NIH received a copy of the film in 1955 as donation from the U.S. Navy, and the film is believed to be in the public domain. Paramount, U.S. Navy and U.S. Coast Guard are given as "authors".

My impression is that the Jam Handy film, copyrighted in 1944, is a different one.

TTTP In Exile / Re: Terrytoons Spoken Here
« on: November 10, 2011, 06:00:53 am »
More Gandy Goose weirdness: "Lights out" -

TTTP In Exile / Re: Terrytoons Spoken Here
« on: November 02, 2011, 11:33:08 am »
Not exactly the scope of this thread, but pure joy: One of the last silent Fables drawn by Paul Terry and Frank Moser, before those two left Van Beuren and started doing Terrytoons:

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