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General Discussion / Please help! Good place for Hi Res screengrabs?
« on: November 15, 2014, 11:48:50 am »
Wondered if anyone here can help me?

Does anyone know any good websites with lots of high quality screen shots from TV cartoons?

I'm doing a little project and I could do with high quality pics of various TV cartoon and children's characters (from 60s through to the 90s), but I want to use stills from the actual cartoons. I'm finding that a normal google image search for specific characters results mostly in promotional images clips on YouTube and doing a screengrab isn't working too well because so many videos are low quality. I'd really appreciate any help.

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TTTP In Exile / Genndy Tartakovsky's POPEYE Animation Test
« on: September 20, 2014, 04:01:39 am »
No topic for this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1lzJuwJD9k

Whaddya think?

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TTTP In Exile / Looney Tunes cowboy song
« on: August 31, 2014, 09:27:15 am »
Can anyone please help me? I'm looking for the name of the music that often plays in WB cartoons when there's a cowboy scene. It's the one Daffy sings in YANKEE DOODLE DAFFY when he rides around singing "I'm a cowboy, yes sir I am! Yes sir I am a cowboy, yes sir I am!". Thanks!

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TTTP In Exile / Poor Papa auction
« on: May 03, 2014, 02:45:12 am »
In a couple of days a 16mm print of the first Oswald short to be made is up for auction at Bonhams. I won't be bidding, but if you're a fan of Oswald and want to see some frames from his first cartoon, it's worth a look:

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions

Even more interesting than the auction itself is Jerry Beck's article on Cartoon Research:

http://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/for-sale-poor-papa-1928/

This article explains why the price Bonham's expects to realise for this print (which is rare, but not unique) is absolutely ridiculous. Reading both the article and the comments below, there are at least three copies of the film in existence including at least one 35mm (which was actually offered to Disney at a price they weren't prepared to pay). It will be interesting to see what happens here. As an Oswald fan, I'm glad to know there are several prints out there and really pleased to at least see those frame grabs, even if I can't see the film itself.


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TTTP In Exile / Oswald Costume Character at Tokyo Disney Sea
« on: April 01, 2014, 08:45:03 am »
My first glimpse of the CGI-looking pics on Cartoon Brew on April Fools Day made me suspect a hoax, but the footage and pics on various websites just seem too good. Oswald is now an official costume character in a Disney Theme Park. What's more, this is one of the best Disney costumes I've ever seen – he looks fantastic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsX_2szZGX4

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TTTP In Exile / References in new Disney Movie ad
« on: March 30, 2014, 02:20:42 am »
I think a lot of people here will enjoy this new ident for the TV Channel, Sky Movies Disney:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6vtPn4pNBU

I thought it might be fun to see if we can find all the Disney references from beginning to end between us all. I've spotted loads already, but I won't post again till tomorrow because I don't want to spoil the game before anyone else has watched and paused through it themselves. I've certainly missed some, (I can't quite make out a few of the signs and some of the architecture is immediately familiar, but I can't say exactly which movie right away).

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TTTP In Exile / Disney Cartoon Reissue List
« on: February 22, 2014, 04:34:10 am »
Following Zachary's lead, with that great list of MGM reissue cartoons, I have tried to do the same for the Disney cartoons. For the most part, my information stems from the Boxoffice magazine archive. Using the 'Shorts Charts' and 'Shorts Indexes'. The Shorts Chart was a regular feature, listing short films in current release. It appeared in many, many issues before disappearing in the early 70s when I suppose shorts were of less importance to cinemas. The 'Shorts Index' appeared about once a year, among other indexes listing all the films of the previous season. Once again the 'Shorts Index' didn't last long into the 1970s.

I am aware that this information is far from complete. It starts in the 1947-48 season. I know that cartoons were released in the black and white era too. Leonard Maltin notes on one of the Mickey in Black and White DVDs that the Mickey cartoons were released and re-released in the 1930s. David Gerstein has some example of early reissue titles on his blog which we've talked about before. Maybe I'll be able to learn more about some of these releases later, a lot of 1930s Boxoffice magazines are yet to be added to their archive. Below is an ad that appeared in Boxoffice 27 October 1932.

I also suspect (but have no facts) that Disney shorts may have been tied to Disney features. I have read that THE NIFTY NINETIES was re-released with the 1960 film POLYANNA, for example. If this was the case, then there will be many more colour reissues than listed here.

Another thing to bear in mind. If you're trying to work out when cartoons had new titles created, remember new titles weren't just made for theatrical releases, but also for home and T.V.

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TTTP In Exile / Mickey's Elephant Titles
« on: January 20, 2014, 02:36:56 pm »
I was browsing through some online animation catalogues just now when I found this original animation art for the title card of Mickey's Elephant:

http://www.icollector.com/Original-title-animation-cel-for-1936-Disney-cartoon-Mickey-s-Elephant_i10030503

It's boasts some attractively designed yellow lettering over a burgundy background. What's unusual about it is that it doesn't match the titles I've always seen on this cartoon (with the words 'Mickey's Elephant' in pale blue over a background depicting the Bobo the Elephant's shadow). Now I'd always thought I'd been watching this cartoon with the original titles since all references to United Artists are intact. Does anyone know what might have happened here? Was the burgundy title card ever used on any prints of Mickey's Elephant or was it was prepared, but replaced with a preferred design? Maybe the burgundy titles were used in a reissue, but it's now the original titles are the ones more commonly seen?

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TTTP In Exile / Japanese Oswald Christmas Greeting
« on: December 21, 2013, 11:07:57 am »
This post on Cartoon Brew showcases a new piece of Oswald animation produced as Disney Japan's Christmas greeting:

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/disney-japan-celebrates-the-holidays-with-oswald-the-lucky-rabbit-93067.html

As someone points out in the comments, it's cheap and cheerful. However, I'm always pleased to see anything Oswald! I wondered what might become of Oswald after what could have been his big comeback – the Epic Mickey games – sadly failed to live up to their epic potential and flopped. Still he pops up on new merchandise here and there and current Disney artists can't resist popping him into new projects. Oswald makes a couple of brief cameos in 'Get a Horse' and his image is often snuck in as a little detail in new Disney artwork and illustrations.

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TTTP In Exile / Oswald the Lucky Rabbit again
« on: June 19, 2013, 11:59:13 am »
Here's a nice article about Hungry Hobos for anyone else that has been following its story since being rediscovered. A nice big screen grab and some interesting info – especially the final paragraph:

"According to Bossert [producer, creative director and head of special projects at Walt Disney Animation Studios] there is at least one other "lost" Oswald short that Disney is aware of, but its owner is demanding what Disney considers too much money to purchase it."

So what is the other short? I'm guessing it could be Poor Papa just because David Gerstein has confirmed it exists, but perhaps its another one. Too bad Disney won't stump up the cash to buy it and get that little bit closer to a complete collection.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-lost-disney-short-oswald-hungry-hobos-20130606,0,1198166.story

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TTTP In Exile / Classic Cartoons in the Early Days of BBC TV
« on: May 11, 2013, 05:07:22 am »
Below is a link to something I find really interesting. It's the Radio Times T.V listings for the BBC in the early days of 1936 through to the close-down of the service due to the war in 1939.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/historyofthebbc/resources/radio_times/radio_times.shtml

What makes it interesting to cartoon fans is seeing what cartoons were scheduled to be aired in these really early days of cartoons on T.V.  Each labeled as "A Cartoon Film", starting in August through to the end of 1937, we see Mickey Mouse cartoons, Van Bueren cartoons and Joie de Vivre (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAj5VjgTdQw).

Throughout 1938 most of the cartoons aired were Disney cartoons (originally released between 1930 and 1934) – both Mickey and Silly Symphonies. However, there's also the occasional Van Beuren and perhaps even an early Felix – 'In the Swim'. There are also some cartoon titles I don't recognise.

Things carried on in much the same vein during 1939, but we start to see some newer 1935 Disney titles added to the mix.

Take a look and see what you think. I noticed a few interesting things including the fact that 'The Mad Doctor', which I had heard had been 'banned' in Britain, pops up several times in the listings. Guess either the ban didn't last long, there were different rules for T.V or perhaps no one realised it was banned.

Something to perhaps re-evaluate are the television 'premieres' listed in animation history books and websites. For example the television premieres of many Silly Symphonies are often given 1950s Mickey Mouse Club dates, when they were actually shown on BBC TV well over a decade before.

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TTTP In Exile / What Betty Boop cartoon is this
« on: January 20, 2013, 07:23:38 am »
Can anyone help shed some light on this please? I remember seeing a Betty Boop cartoon as a kid where Betty throws a party. As you'd expect from a 30's cartoon, it all gets out of hand and the inanimate objects come to life. There was one scene I remember where the pot-bellied stove comes to life and dances with a human. He falls in, burns up till he's just ashes and his remains continue to dance!

Anyone know what cartoon this is? I've seen a lot of Betty Boop cartoons as an adult, but not this one. Maybe I'm just remembering it wrong and the scene wasn't from a Betty Boop cartoon at all? I'd really appreciate any help in finding out what cartoon this scene was from.

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TTTP In Exile / Mickey's Christmas Carol question
« on: January 03, 2013, 04:51:19 pm »
Sorry for posting a topic about a post 70's cartoon, but I'm hoping someone here will be able answer this. I'm trying to find the music for the scene in Mickey's Christmas Carol where Scrooge visits his past self at Fezziwig's party. Does anyone know if this music was ever released on a soundtrack CD or if it was ever used as an instrumental at one of the Disney Parks? I ask because it's a really nice piece of music and I'd like to hear it separately from the dialogue and sound effects in the film.

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TTTP In Exile / Oswald's Comeback
« on: July 14, 2012, 08:54:09 am »
Since the Disney Company reacquired Oswald, I've enjoyed following the increased interest in this character and his progress in new projects. The story of Oswald being swapped for a sportscaster definitely generated quite a bit of interest in the news and it wasn't long before we started seeing some Oswald merchandise including, best of all, the Disney Treasures DVD set featuring as many of the Disney Oswald cartoons as was possible. Since then Oswald's popped up in the news a few times. I was amazed by how many places reported the story when the long-lost 'Hungry Hoboes' was discovered and immediately put up for auction. Even the recent minor story of some Harem Scarem sketches being placed in order and presented as a very brief piece of animation was reported all over the place, often to some confusion (some headlines made it appear the whole cartoon had been discovered, while the BBC implied that a new Oswald cartoon had been made using drawings in Walt Disney's personal sketch book)!

Oswald has also continued to pop up here and there in new Disney projects. From new bits of merchandise to images at the theme parks, he got his own parade float (and a dessert) at Tokyo this Easter (http://www.chipandco.com/2011/07/tokyo-disneyland-easter-wonderland-2011-wrap-up/) and, last Christmas, he starred in a seven page comic story (http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=XN+HOJ+2010-001), written by David G of course! However Oswald's most widely exposed recent appearances have got to be as a key character in the game Epic Mickey and its upcoming sequel. The first game was only released on the Wii and it seems was generally well-received. I understand the sequel will be available on multiple formats, hopefully any flaws from the original game will be ironed out and also Oswald will be an actual playable character.

It's in these games that we're starting to see Oswald really establish himself as a more major Disney character and we'll start to see him develop. The games have also brought back his cat girlfriend from the Disney cartoons, renamed Ortensia. I'm not sure why her original name of Sadie wasn't used – perhaps the creators simply didn't realise she had a name or maybe they just wanted another name that began with an O. The other major development in Oswald is he's been given a voice again. Yes, Oswald had a voice before, but since Disney seems to be returning to the Oswald who's straight from the silent era there was an option to keep him mute. I think it makes sense to give him a voice since, even though his original shorts were silent, he was frequently seen to be talking and singing and not only miming everything. There's a couple of clips where we can hear Oswald's new voice including this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-1xVj2wluU

So what does everyone think of the 'new' Oswald and what do you think his future might be?

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TTTP In Exile / Rediscovering Gottfredson
« on: June 21, 2012, 02:37:33 pm »
Since the new volume of Gottfredson Mickey Mouse comics is out soon (I think it's already availabe in America and Canada), I thought I'd start a discussion about these famous strips.

Other than seeing Gottfredson's art on Mickey art on merchandise, I first became familiar with the comic strips when I was a little kid. The newspaper the Sunday Mirror started releasing a supplement called "The Disney Mirror". This comic had kind of a really crappy quality to it. It started about the same time as 'The Disney Weekly' comic. This comic (which originally cost 50p if I remember correctly) was nice and big and printed full colour on nice quality paper. The freebie Disney Mirror, on the other hand, was printed on crappy quality newspaper, the pictures were all small and only half of it was in colour. Plus the stories were old. Of course it was these 'old' stories that fascinated me. I may not have known the name Gottfredson, but even as a kid I could see these weren't just 'old' – these were the original comics – the ones that must have been made at the same time as the classic cartoons. This immediately made them fascinating to me.

The one frustrating thing about the Disney Mirror was that I couldn't collect it. My parents didn't buy newspapers, but a neighbour of my grandparents use to give them a copy for the grandkids to read. I remember when my grandad let me read the first issue (a story where Mickey is shrunk to size of the fly). I was so excited to see a classic Mickey comic! I read it while I was there, but I was rarely allowed to take the comics home because they'd save them for my cousin (this secretly annoyed me because I knew he wouldn't appreciate them, being unable to turn a page without tearing it to bits, let alone be bother to read anything). I was able to read and enjoy a good number of Gottfredson strips, enough to whet my appetite for more, but as time went on it got harder and harder to find full stories without missing issues.

I always found it impossible to collect the classic Mickey strips, so it's brilliant that they're finally being reprinted right from the beginning and I can finally collect and read them the way I've always wanted to. The first two fantagraphics volume have been a delight. I think the biggest delightful surprise (aside from how frequently the Disney characters are joyously up for a lynching) is the continuity in the early strips. Although they can be broken down into separate stories, they all flow into one another. Whenever Pete and Shyster turn up in another story it's not just out of the blue because they're the sotck villains, but it's actually always explained how they escaped after being defeated in their previous story. This eye for continuity even throws up a few odd curios. For example in the animated cartoon 'The Mad Dog' the dog catcher is quite clearly Pete. However, the comic strip version of has his own continuity and a very different character design. So when the Mad Dog is adapted for the comic, the dog catcher appears with the same design as in the cartoon, but he's a 'new' and separate character and not Pete.

I was disappointed when the penultimate story in Volume 2 ended and the final story kicked off without there being any flow between the two. The continuity in earlier stories had made Mickey's tales like one lone adventurous soap opera. I assume this continuity is over now, but I guess I'll find out for sure when I read Volume 3.

I could go on, but I think this post is long enough. Anyone else got any thoughts or memories about the Gottfredson Mickey strips?

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