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TTTP In Exile / The Animated Legacy of Dr. Seuss
« on: March 22, 2014, 12:40:43 pm »
[ The text I wrote here is written
in rhyme (except for the facts, the film & tv timeline, & the P.S. text),
because.. well.. it's about Dr. Seuss! ]


Walt Disney, Jim Henson & Salvador Dali are masters of imagination,
& one of them is Dr. Seuss, he's a creative sensation.
A great children's book author, his books are remarkable,
his whimsical art & fantastic poetry have made these books unbelievable.
(actually, "The 500 Hats of Bartholomew Cubbins" &
"The King's Stilts" are written in prose, not poetry)

Dr. Seuss's weird & imaginative world
is beloved by many nations' young boys & girls.
But he's not just the creator of the fantasy beyond,
there's also other things he have worked on:
a comic strip, magazines, advertisements & political cartoons too,
& the WW2 Warner Bros. cartoon series named "Private Snafu".
Also wonderful in the history of Dr. Seuss, as you'll see,
is that his imagination comes to life in animated films & tv.
This toon line-up including ones from our childhood memories
begins in the 1940's & 1950's,
the early cartoons by Bob Clampett, George Pal & UPA
forshadows that Dr. Seuss will have a big animated legacy someday.
& in 1966, the legacy starts to grow enormous
when the TVs are airing "How the Grinch Stole Christmas!".
& from that year on, the world's getting more Seuss toons than before,
with well-remembered characters & make-believe regions galore.
& Chuck Jones, Ralph Bakshi, Hanna-Barbera & DePatie-Freleng
have made tv specials that leaves people with good feelings.
& the Blue Sky Studios version of "Horton Hears a Who!"
is a funny & wonderful movie adaption, it's true!
The history of Dr. Seuss toons have come a long way,
& we'll always enjoy watching the animated Seuss-ness anyday!


The Dr. Seuss Animated Film & TV Timeline

[1942] WB's Merrie Melodies: "Horton Hatches The Egg" - Directed by Bob Clampett  (4/11/1942)

[1943] George Pal's Madcap Models: "The 500 Hats of Bartholomew Cubbins" - Directed by George Pal  (4/30/1943)

[1944] George Pal's Puppetoons: "And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street" - Directed by George Pal  (7/28/1944)

[1951] UPA's Jolly Frolics: "Gerald McBoing Boing" - Directed by Robert Cannon & John Hubley  (1/25/1951)

[1966] MGM: "How the Grinch Stole Christmas!" - Directed by Chuck Jones & Ben Washam  (12/18/1966)

[1970] MGM: "Horton Hears a Who!" - Directed by Chuck Jones & Ben Washam  (3/19/1970)

[1971] DFE: "The Cat In The Hat" - Directed by Hawley Pratt, Produced by Chuck Jones,
Executive Producer: Friz Freleng  (3/10/1971)

[1972] DFE: "The Lorax" - Directed by Hawley Pratt, Produced by Friz Freleng  (2/14/1972)

[1973] DFE: "Dr. Seuss On The Loose" - Directed by Hawley Pratt, Produced by Friz Freleng  (10/15/1973)

[1975] DFE: "The Hoober-Bloob Highway" - Directed by Alan Zaslove, Produced by Friz Freleng  (2/19/1975)

[1977] DFE: "Halloween is Grinch Night" - Directed by Gerard Baldwin, Executive Producer: Friz Freleng  (10/29/1977)

[1980] DFE: "Pontoffel Pock, Where Are You?" - Directed by Gerard Baldwin,
Executive Producer: Friz Freleng  (5/2/1980)

[1982] DFE: "The Grinch Grinches The Cat In The Hat" - Directed by Bill Perez, Produced by Friz Freleng  (5/20/1982)

[1989] Ralph Bakshi: "The Butter Battle Book" - Directed & Produced by Ralph Bakshi  (11/13/1989)

[1995] Hanna-Barbera: "Daisy-Head Mayzie" - Directed by Tony Collingwood,
Studio Leadership: Fred Seibert, William Hanna & Joseph Barbera  (2/5/1995)

[2008] Blue Sky Studios: "Horton Hears a Who!" - Directed by Jimmy Hayward & Steve Martino,
Executive Producer: Chris Wedge  (3/3/2008)



(The Illumination Entertainment version of "The Lorax" from 2012 was not included in this timeline listing,
because it was not as good as the original 1971 book & the 1972 animated version.)

(There was also a motion-capture CG animated version of Dr. Seuss's "My Many Colored Days" in
"Notes Alive! : Dr. Seuss's My Many Colored Days".)

(There was also 2 Dr. Seuss TV shows, the puppet-type "The Wubbulous World of Dr. Seuss (1996)"
by The Jim Henson Company (I think puppeteering is technically "animation"), &
the flash-animated "The Cat in the Hat Knows a Lot About That! (2010)"
by Collingwood O'Hare Productions & Portfolio Entertainment.)





Both in literature & animation,
we'll always be going in odd directions
in the world of
Dr. Seuss's unusual imagination!,
from there to here,
from here to there,
funny things
are everywhere!


P.S.
Since it's 2014, & it is March (Dr. Seuss is born in 3/2/1904),
I'am going to say this:
Happy 110th Birthday, Dr. Seuss!

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Walt Disney's classic animated movies "Cinderella (1950)" & "The Sword in the Stone (1963)" are on blu-ray,
but something is wrong, & there is a big problem...
the blu-rays' picture qualities are disappointing and not exactly great.



In the "Cinderella : Diamond Edition" blu-ray,
it's video quality is a little bit messed up.

blu-raydefinition.com : "Cinderella : Diamond Edition" Review
Brandon A. DuHamel: "Thanks to one of our readers we were able to compare this new Cinderalla transfer from Disney to previous DVD releases and see that, in fact, what Disney has done here is blown out the contrast and saturation, cleaned up the image to an extreme level, and also, in many cases, removed a lot of the finer details in the animation, such as effects around Cinderella’s transformation into her gown, lines in dresses, and more. Some spots show colors that have been completely changed or appear to have been wiped out altogether, such as the fairy godmother’s blouse beneath her cloak."

blu-ray.com : "Cinderella : Diamond Edition" Review
Kenneth Brown: "Cinderella, like many other Golden Age Disney animated classics that have come to Blu-ray, arrives with a stunning 1080p/AVC MPEG-4 video transfer free of encoding imperfections or, really, any major preservation or restoration flaws to point to. Major being the key word. Much like other Disney animated presentations before it, grain has been removed from the image in the pursuit of a different kind of perfection; carefully, judiciously and without any debilitating injury to the original animation, yes, but removed all the same. I'd typically be the first to rail against such dramatic grain removal, unless it was removed at the specific behest of the filmmaker, but in rare cases like these, it doesn't bother me as much. Why? Presenting Cinderella as it might have appeared had it been assembled anew from the original animation cels strikes me as another way to potentially present the film faithfully in something approaching its purest state. There's a legitimate debate to be had, though -- is a classic animated film at its purest state when completed or when completed on film, thus granting it a more traditionally filmic temperament? (Especially since the process, and the ensuing adjustments, color and contrast tweaks, and other leveling changes sometimes lead to disparities when compared to previous presentations of the film.) That said, both sides of the argument have merit. For the purposes of this review, let's agree to disagree, purists and revisionists alike, and focus, by and large, on the technical quality of the presentation at hand. Soft pastel hues, rich primaries, gorgeous blues, lush greens and inky blacks come together to embrace a truly enchanting image, full of life and color. Contrast is dialed in vividly and consistently, and substantial flickering or fluctuations aren't in play. The animation hasn't been severely impacted by the restoration either, minus the thin, brightly hued line art that's been lost or subdued in equally bright blue or white swaths of color. Every line is clean (although often only as sharp as the source elements allow), every color fill is stable, every hand-painted background retains its bristled brush texturing, and significant ringing, aliasing and other such eyesores don't creep into the image. There also isn't any notable print damage or blemishes, artifacting or banding, or more detrimental issues. If I didn't have to address the complete absence of grain (and some of the aforementioned alterations, minor as each one arguably is), this would in fact be the easiest video analysis I've written all year. Purists, particularly those poring over screenshot comparisons, won't be quite so impressed, but most everyone else will be completely satisfied when they see Cinderella's Diamond Edition makeover. Your opinion will mostly be dictated by the camp you call home."



In "The Sword in the Stone : 50th Anniversary Edition" blu-ray,
it's video quality has gotten worse.

blu-ray.com : "The Sword in the Stone : 50th Anniversary Edition" Review
Kenneth Brown: "The Sword in the Stone's 1080p/AVC-encoded video transfer is an extremely difficult presentation to evaluate. Terribly, almost shockingly soft -- to the point that many shots appear out of focus, blurry, or as if the line art is plagued by the sort of ghosting you might find in a poorly aligned 3D image -- with nary a showcase scene to be found, the film suffers the wrath of heavy handed remastering that features an unforgiving application of noise reduction. The difficulty in evaluating the presentation, of course, is in discerning which issues trace back to the source and which have been exacerbated by the new overhaul. Softness is fine, if it's inherent to the print. Artificial sharpening can be just as detrimental as DNR. This isn't filmic softness, though; it's digital smearing, and it's some of the worst I've seen. Yes, colors have been bolstered and black levels deepened, with a few instances of blazing primaries to boot, and yes, the palette largely retains its dreary, dismal disposition, as it should. Contrast is consistent too, even though the animation never really pops or looks overly "new." Sadly, detail is an utter disappointment, as evidenced by any one of the expanded screenshots that accompany this review. (In the interest of being thorough, I spent quite a bit of time searching for anything more striking, but to no avail.) The animators' line art has been scrubbed to the point of appearing squishy, disheveled or, at its worst, nearly indistinct (as if it's been blotted away), and every now and then it falls into all three categories. The painted backgrounds have the telltale smeariness of noise reduction gone awry -- as does the print, which tends to feature an ugly artificial cleanliness -- and grain has been wiped away in its entirety, almost to comical ends. How bad does it get? It isn't uncommon to run across a sequence that looks as if it's been restored using tracing sheets and Crayola markers. The encode itself isn't as problematic. Banding and aliasing aren't in play, and the minor macroblocking that creeps in from time to time is tough to spot with the film in motion. (But still there, hindering the occasional splash of color.) Granted, The Sword in the Stone has never been blessed with precision animation or a pristine source, and I'm sure some of the trouble here at least began with the original elements. (In trying to remove dust and dirt, a noble pursuit, the remastering team jumped off a very steep cliff.) However, having carefully analyzed the film three times on three different displays, then poring over dozens of screenshots, it's become clearer and clearer that the choices made over the course of remastering the film for high definition have only made things worse. Much, much worse. I'm more than willing to update my review if more illuminating information becomes available, but this is, without a doubt, the bottom of the barrel when it comes to the animated presentations Disney has released on Blu-ray."




We are disappointed,
But we don't want to let "Cinderella",
the animated film that started the Walt Disney Studio's next generation (1950-1967),
have it's picture restored the partially wrong way, do we?
& we don't want to let the 50th anniversary of "The Sword in the Stone" be ruined, do we?

Well I say, we must tell Disney to give these blu-rays the replacement discs!


So let's do the best we ever can, & never give up!
You can create petitions at both care2.com & change.org,
Send mails to Walt Disney Home Video & Walt Disney Studios,
Send e-mails to Disneyinfo@Disneyhelp.com & support@disneyonline.com ,
& post comments on the "Disney" & "Walt Disney Studios" facebook pages,
So Disney will know that we really need the replacement discs for the
"Cinderella : Diamond Edition" & "The Sword in the Stone : 50th Anniversary Edition" blu-rays!


Let's give "Cinderella" & "The Sword in the Stone" the great respect they really deserve!
& make Walt Disney in heaven happy!


please post a link to this thread at...
the "Disney Discussion" section at the "DVDizzy.com" forums,
the "Disney Blu-Ray" & "Open Vault Disney" facebook pages,
& the "Disney/Pixar Forum" at the "ToonZone" forums.

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I think that "Tiny Toon Adventures" & "Animaniacs" are the 1990's descendants of Looney Tunes,
because their humor, their characters' personalities, & their comedic dialogue have always reminded us
of the pre-1965 classic era of the "Looney Tunes" & "Merrie Melodies" cartoons.
& according to these details, their forms & personalities/behaviors shows that they have
an official relationship (not blood relationship) with the original cast of Looney Tunes.


"Tiny Toon Adventures"

Looney Tunes: Bugs Bunny
Tiny Toons: Buster & Babs Bunny

Looney Tunes: Daffy Duck
Tiny Toons: Plucky Duck

Looney Tunes: Porky Pig
Tiny Toons: Hamton Pig

Looney Tunes: Elmer Fudd
Tiny Toons: Elmyra Duff

Looney Tunes: Yosemite Sam
Tiny Toons: Montana Max

Looney Tunes: Tasmanian Devil ("Taz" for short)
Tiny Toons: Dizzy Devil

Looney Tunes: Sylvester
Tiny Toons: Furrball

Looney Tunes: Tweety
Tiny Toons: Sweetie

Looney Tunes: Sniffles
Tiny Toons: Sneezer

Looney Tunes: The Bookworm
Tiny Toons: The Other Bookworm

Looney Tunes: Pepe Le Pew
Tiny Toons: Fifi La Fume

Looney Tunes: Wile E. Coyote
Tiny Toons: Calamity Coyote

Looney Tunes: Road Runner
Tiny Toons: Little Beeper

Looney Tunes: Marvin the Martian
Tiny Toons: Marcia the Martian

Looney Tunes: Foghorn Leghorn
Tiny Toons: Fowlmouth

Looney Tunes: Beaky Buzzard
Tiny Toons: Concord Condor

Looney Tunes: Marc Anthony
Tiny Toons: Barky Marky

Looney Tunes: Sam Sheepdog
Tiny Toons: Saul Sheepdog

Looney Tunes: The Dodo
Tiny Toons: Gogo Dodo


Fact: The Tiny Toons counterpart of Looney Tunes' Speedy Gonzales is named Lightning Rodriguez,
& originally he was going to be the recurring character of "Tiny Toon Adventures", but his recurring role
was cancelled during production due to the cartoon staff's reasons, but he did have small appearances in
the 2 episodes "You Asked for It" & "The Acme Bowl".

& Another Fact:
Although "Tiny Toon Adventures" was the 1990's version of "Looney Tunes",
there are new original characters created for this show:
Shirley "the Loon" McLoon (a Tiny Toons version of the new age believer, Shirley MacLaine).
(note: Shirley MacLaine was Shirley the Loon's idol)
Arnold the Pit Bull (based on Arnold Schwarzenegger, like Jorgen Von Strangle from "The Fairly OddParents").
The evil rats named Roderick & Rhubella.
Mary Melody (her name is based on the name of WB's other theatrical cartoon series "Merrie Melodies").
Byron Basset.
Mr. Skullhead.



"Animaniacs"

Yakko, Wakko & Dot are based on the characters of the black & white Looney Tunes & Merrie Melodies cartoons of the early 1930's
(Bosko & Honey, Foxy & Roxy, Goopy Geer, & Piggy & Fluffy).

Slappy Squirrel was an old retired cartoon character who once had fame & glory as the star of the "Looney Tunes" & "Merrie Melodies" cartoons,
But although she is octogenarian and is on retirement, she can still outwit the enemies & fight back at them with cartoon violence.

Pinky & the Brain are beloved cartoon villains that are scheming diabolical deeds but are always foiled, humiliated & damaged in the end,
like Looney Tunes' Yosemite Sam, Sylvester (when he's against Tweety & Speedy), Wile E. Coyote (& Ralph Wolf) & Marvin the Martian.
& Brain's genius plans always backfires on him and Pinky, like Wile E. Coyote.

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TTTP In Exile / The Difference About Chef Goofy in "No Service"
« on: July 22, 2013, 11:07:19 am »
I know Goofy was a stupid & clumsy but kind & gentle character that always sticks with his best friends Mickey & Donald through any adventures!

But in "No Service", chef Goofy was acting out-of-character, as he was sometimes being rough on Mickey & Donald for not following the diner rules.

So I posted my letter to Paul Rudish at "Animation Scoop", because I was passionate about Goofy and the Disney cartoon fans.


My letter says...

"Dear Paul Rudish,

I already watched "Croissant de Triomphe" & "Yodelberg", & I think they are great cartoons,

But there is just one difference about "No Service",
after I watched "No Service", I think that Goofy, as the diner chef, was sometimes being rough on Mickey & Donald for not wearing shoes & shirts, & for the wrong I.D. card that Donald is holding by mistake. I think that Goofy is sometimes acting out-of-character in this cartoon.

At the comments in the article of OMD (Oh My Disney) titled "5 Problem-Solving Lessons from the New Mickey Mouse Short",
Matt Norcross has said "One flaw of this short is that Goofy was out of character.".

& the people at the dvdizzy forums also said that Goofy was sometimes out of character.

I think we loved Goofy better as a kind, gentle, clumsy, very friendly, & "goofy" character.

I think you should do something about changing this cartoon ("No Service") a little.

My idea was, only in "No Service", to replace chef Goofy with a tall & skinny chef cat that didn't wear pants (tall & skinny & pants-less like chef Goofy), voiced by Dee Bradley Baker, who is innocent but can be rough to someone who breaks the rules.

I hope you understand.


Signed,
Tony McCarson"


This is where I posted my letter:
http://blogs.indiewire.com/animationscoop/new-mickey-mouse-shorts



But the two good things about the 2013 Mickey Mouse cartoons is,
Goofy had a funny cross-dressing cameo in "New York Weenie"
& Goofy was back to his real self in "Stayin' Cool"!

But Paul Rudish and his team still should do something about changing "No Service" a little.


I know that Goofy had different roles in "Ye Olden Days", "Motor Mania (where he is the evil Mr. Wheeler)" & "Fathers Are People".

But I think his role as chef Goofy in "No Service" is sort of technically weird.


Feel free to post discussions in this thread

& write your own letters & comments (with your own ideas) to Paul Rudish, so he can understand how you feel about "No Service".
(Please be friendly and nice to Paul Rudish!)


& remember people, we love Goofy just the way he is since 1932! :goofy:


please post a link to this thread at...
the "Disney Discussion" section at the "DVDizzy.com" forums,
the "Golden Age Cartoons" facebook page,
& the "Disney/Pixar Forum" at the "ToonZone" forums.

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(The following text you are about to read was an opinion created by the individual (that's me) with different ways of thinking. There are opinions created for theories, respect, appreciation, bravery, knowledge, & virtue. But there are opinions created for hate, negativity, cowardice, laziness, and making mountains out of molehills.
Everyone in this world have different opinions, but people can agree or disagree each other's opinions, because we are different people with different & unique minds.)


From 1928 to 1942, the Fleischer Studios was the great rival to Walt Disney Studios. It has innovative technology & great animation talents just like Walt Disney’s studio, It has it’s own animated superstars named KoKo the Clown & Betty Boop, It has 2 animated movies to compete with Disney’s animated movies, & it was successful in creating the animated adaptions of "Popeye (the comic strip)" & "Superman (the comic book)". But there was Walt Disney’s rival that is more stronger & better than the Fleischer Studios, & It has the animation studio talents & techniques & the creations of the characters’ personalities that makes it a tougher competitor to Walt Disney Studios, & It’s cartoons even surpassed Disney’s cartoons in sales and popularity in 1942!

The #1 rival & arch-rival of Walt Disney Studios is...
Warner Bros. Cartoons, Inc. (aka "Leon Schlesinger Productions" & "Termite Terrace").

It mostly doesn’t have innovative technology like Fleischer’s & Disney’s, & It does not produce any animated movies from the 1940's to the 1960's (WB’s "Gay Purr-ee" was really UPA’s creation, this movie was just distributed by WB), But from 1929 to 1964, WB’s original animation studio founded by Leon Schlesinger was innovative, talented, creative & smart-thinking on their efforts on humor & comedy, story & script, creating characters & their personalities, animating animation, & making people laugh & enjoy the good things in life. & another fact is, both Mickey Mouse & Bugs Bunny are brave & heroic good guys that stand up against the bad guys and kicked their butts in any way!

In my opinion: Since I was born, I learned that the animated films & cartoons of Walt Disney & Warner Bros. both have a lot in common, they are high-quality films created by the wonderfully-talented studio team who are hard-working, unique, great-thinking, creative-skilled, appreciated, & are strong at believing in themselves!

Like Coca-Cola vs. Pepsi, Nintendo vs. Sega (until 2001), & Star Trek vs. Star Wars,
I think that Walt Disney & Warner Bros. will always be the greatest rivals!



Below is my comparison list about the similarities between
Walt Disney & Warner Bros.

[Classic Theatrical Cartoon Series]
Walt Disney: Disney cartoons featuring Mickey, Donald & their friends (1928-1960's).
WB: Looney Tunes & Merrie Melodies (1929-1964).

[The Main Stars who are the Greatest Heroes!]
Walt Disney: Mickey Mouse.
WB: Bugs Bunny.

[The Original Leaders]
Walt Disney: Walt & Roy O. Disney.
WB: Leon Schlesinger.

[The Best Cast & Crew of the Animation Studios]
Walt Disney: The Nine Old Men, Clarence Nash, Pinto Colvig, Norman Ferguson,
Hamilton Luske, Charles Nichols, Jack Kinney, Jack Hannah, Fred Moore, Bill Tytla,
Mary Blair, George Bruns, The Sherman Brothers, Ken Anderson, James MacDonald, etc.
WB: Friz Freleng, Tex Avery, Chuck Jones, Bob Clampett, Robert McKimson, Hugh & Rudolf,
Mel Blanc, Stan Freberg, Arthur Q. Bryan, Treg Brown, Michael Maltese, Tedd Pierce,
Virgil Ross, Abe Levitow, Maurice Noble, Carl Stalling, Milt Franklyn, Gerry Chiniquy, etc.

[Leaving The Studio in the 1930's]
Walt Disney: Ub Iwerks leaves the Disney studio to start his own cartoon studio
& created Flip the Frog. Ub Iwerks returned to the Disney studio in 1940.
WB: Hugh Harman & Rudolf Ising leaves Leon Schlesinger
& have created/directed their MGM cartoons from 1934 to 1943.

[Rebellion in 1941]
Walt Disney: the group of Disney animators started a labor union strike
against Walt Disney, & the 3 former Disney employees have founded the UPA studio.
WB: Tex Avery revolts against Leon Schlesinger &
have created his MGM cartoons from 1942 to 1955.

[Hollywood All-Stars Caricature Cartoons]
Walt Disney: "Mickey's Gala Premiere", "Mickey's Polo Team",
"Mother Goose Goes Hollywood" & "The Autograph Hound".
WB: "The Coo-Coo Nut Grove", "Hollywood Steps Out",
"Hollywood Canine Canteen", "Slick Hare", etc.

[Confronting WW2 Villainy]
Walt Disney: Donald Duck in "Der Fuehrer's Face" & "Commando Duck".
WB: Bugs Bunny in "Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips" & "Herr Meets Hare".

[Fowl-Tempered, Arrogant & Greedy Ducks]
Walt Disney: Donald Duck.
WB: Daffy Duck.
(note: Scrooge McDuck is as greedy as Donald & Daffy)

[Couples]
Walt Disney: Mickey & Minnie, & Donald & Daisy.
WB: Porky & Petunia, & Bosko & Honey. Bugs Bunny has lots of girlfriends!

[Cartoon Villains]
Walt Disney: Pete, Butch the Bulldog & Lucifer the Cat (not the other cat from "Cinderella").
WB: Elmer Fudd, Yosemite Sam & Marvin the Martian.
(note: you can see Lucifer in "Pluto's Kid Brother" & "Bath Day")

[Small & Mischievous Duos]
Walt Disney: Chip & Dale.
WB: The Goofy Gophers named Mac & Tosh.

[Screwy Birds from Exotic Lands]
Walt Disney: the Aracuan Bird, from South America.
WB: the DoDo, from Wackyland, Africa.

[Young Relatives]
Walt Disney: Morty & Ferdie (mostly in comics), Goofy Jr. & Max, P.J., & Huey, Dewey, and Louie.
WB: Clyde Bunny, Egghead Jr. & Sylvester Jr.

[Animated Compilations]
Walt Disney: compilation episodes from "Disneyland/Walt Disney Presents"
(like "Kids is Kids" & "How to Relax").
WB: compilation movies & tv specials
(like "The Bugs Bunny/Road Runner Movie" & "Bugs Bunny's Easter Special").

[Animated Movies]
Walt Disney: Lots of 'em! Snow White & The Seven Dwarfs, Pinocchio, Bambi, Peter Pan,
Sleeping Beauty, The Jungle Book, Robin Hood, Aladdin, Wreck-It Ralph, Fantasia, etc.
WB: Quest for Camelot & The Iron Giant.

[Live-Action Movies]
Walt Disney: Treasure Island, 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, Old Yeller, Pollyanna,
Swiss Family Robinson, Mary Poppins, The Love Bug, Honey I Shrunk The Kids, Hocus Pocus, etc.
WB: The Adventures of Robin Hood, Casablanca, The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms, Gypsy,
Enter The Dragon, Blade Runner, The Goonies, Beetlejuice, Goodfellas, Free Willy, The Matrix, etc.

[Animation/Live-Action Hybrids]
Walt Disney: Song of the South, Mary Poppins, Bedknobs & Broomsticks,
Pete's Dragon, Who Framed Roger Rabbit (Touchstone Pictures), etc.
WB: Two Guys from Texas, My Dream Is Yours, The Incredible Mr. Limpet,
Space Jam & Looney Tunes : Back in Action.

[Animated TV Shows]
Walt Disney: Lots of 'em! Ducktales, Chip & Dale : Rescue Rangers, Talespin, Darkwing Duck,
Goof Troop, Bonkers, Gargoyles, Pepper Ann, The Weekenders, Phineas & Ferb, etc.
WB: Tiny Toon Adventures, Animaniacs, Freakazoid, Road Rovers, Histeria!, Detention, etc.

[Acquirement]
Walt Disney: Disney has bought Pixar & Marvel Comics.
WB: Warner Bros. has bought Hanna-Barbera (renamed "Cartoon Network Studios") & DC Comics.

[Shopping Stores]
Walt Disney: The Disney Store.
WB: The Warner Bros. Studio Store (closed in U.S.A. in 2001).

[Theme Parks]
Walt Disney: Disneyland, Walt Disney World, Disneyland Paris, Tokyo Disneyland, etc.
WB: WB Movie World in Australia & Spain (also in Germany until 2004), & the Six Flags Amusement Parks.

[Golden Anniversaries]
Walt Disney: Mickey Mouse's 60th Birthday (1988).
WB: Bugs Bunny's 50th Birthday (1990).

[New Millenium Celebrations]
Walt Disney: Walt Disney World's 2000 Celebration.
WB: Mil-looney-um 2000.

[Studio Water Towers]
Walt Disney: Walt Disney Studios & Disney's Hollywood Studios (alias "Disney-MGM Studios").
WB: Warner Bros. Studios.

[Merchandise for Babies]
Walt Disney: Disney Babies.
WB: Baby Looney Tunes.

[Memorabilia/Wide Array of Products (based on characters from theatrical cartoons)]
Walt Disney: toys, records, clothes, home video, video games, books, glassware, lunchboxes, etc.
WB: toys, records, clothes, home video, video games, books, glassware, lunchboxes, etc.

[Special Edition DVDs]
Walt Disney: Walt Disney Treasures.
WB: The Looney Tunes Golden Collection.

[Pinto Colvig : The Voice Actor for, ironically, both the Rival Studios]
Walt Disney: Pinto Colvig was the voice of Goofy, Pluto, Practical Pig & Grumpy.
WB: Pinto Colvig was the voice of the characters in "Aloha Hooey", "Conrad the Sailor",
"Ding Dong Daddy" & "Hop & Go".



So lets go ahead & talk about this rivalry, discuss about it, chat about it, & talk your opinions & theories about it!

& you can make your own comparison lists
about the similarities & differences between Walt Disney & Warner Bros.
(If you really want to)

Here is this layout for the list.

[   s u b j e c t   ]
Walt Disney: blankety blank
WB: blankety blank


All of you are welcome to enter my thread anytime.

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Before more details are officially confirmed about "Super Mario 3D World",
I was thinking to myself , If Princess Peach is NOT kidnapped, than what happened to Bowser?

Well here is my made-up theory about the plot of this new video game.


King Bowser was always having fame and glory as the superstar villain since 1985's "Super Mario Bros.", While Wario & Waluigi got jealous of him because they are "second-banana" villains or #2 villains (just like Daffy Duck getting jealous of Bugs Bunny!), So they decide to kidnap Bowser & are going to annihilate him & get rid of him, so they can steal his spotlight &
be superstar villains at last!

After Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, & Toad learned that Bowser was kidnapped by Wario & Waluigi,
the heroes (& heroine) are going to save their villain from, well, the villains!

Which means that Wario & Waluigi could be the main villains of "Super Mario 3D World",
while Bowser could be the VILLAIN in distress!


So people, what do you think?

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Steve Stanchfield & Jerry Beck,

We already know that "Lantz Studio Treasures" & "Mid-Century Modern Animation : Vol. 2" are already produced, & we are excited!

But all I want to know is, what future dvds (& blu-rays) are in production & pre-production?


here is my list of what I think could be coming soon, or coming later from ThunderBean.

Cartoon Commercials! : Vol. 2

Gulliver's Travels : Special Edition

Mr. Bug Goes To Town : Special Edition


& here is my list of what dvds (& blu-rays) I wished to be produced by ThunderBean.

Mid-Century Modern Animation : Vol. 3

Santa & the Three Bears : Special Edition (I watched this christmas featurette on betamax many times in my childhood!)

Fleischer Studios presents : Color Classics (the complete collection)

Totally 80's Animation : Vol. 1 (I was born in 1985!)


Take your time thinking before you answer.


& I love your ThunderBean dvds! (I have "Private Snafu : Golden Classics" , "Cartoon Commercials! : Vol. 1" & "Mid-Century Modern Animation : Vol. 1"!)

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At the "Looney Tunes Platinum Collection on Blu-ray Reviews" thread at the blu-ray.com forums,

KCota15 has said:

"So I have some bad news. I just emailed Jerry Beck and he said although there will be a Volume 3, it won't be out until around Christmas due to poor sales and the series might not be continued after that"
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=176841&page=24


But I responded with bravery, not cowardice!:

"Now hold on, just because the Looney Tunes Platinum Collection could end after vol. 3, doesn't mean that it CAN end!

in 2006, Leonard Maltin said that the Walt Disney Treasures (dvd) are ending and will be replaced by the Walt Disney Legacy collection (dvd) in 2007, but in 2007, because of popular demand, the Walt Disney Company makes the Walt Disney Treasures continue on from 2007 to 2009, & the Walt Disney Legacy collection was short-lived.

& on the other side of Burbank, according to what the people said, the WB studios is about to end the Looney Tunes Golden Collection (dvd) after vol. 5 in 2007, but suddenly, they had a change of heart, & are going to release a new volume of the Looney Tunes Golden Collection one more time in 2008.

& the dvds of "Tiny Toon Adventures" and "Animaniacs" did not continue with their new volumes until in 2013 that they finally got their long-overdue new volumes!

So if you people out there have supported the Looney Tunes Platinum Collection, then I say do the best you can with mails and e-mails, campaigns and petitions, & buy the 3rd volume immediately, stores & online!

& maybe, just maybe, the Looney Tunes Platinum Collection can continue on, maybe all the way to 2019! Because you people do love and supported Looney Tunes!

& Jerry Beck, if you read this, you are always welcome to support this!"
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=176841&page=25


So what do you say, people?
We can win if we are brave & will never give up!

& as Bugs Bunny says...
"Looks like this boy scout's gonna do his good deed for the day" ("Hare Trimmed" 1953)
& "You realize that this is not going to go unchallenged" ("Barbary-Coast Bunny" 1956)


Spread the word about this subject at...
the "Golden Age Cartoons" facebook page,
the "General DVD Discussion" section at the "DVDizzy.com" forums,
& the "Retro: Classic Cartoons" section at the "ToonZone" forums.

& show your support & demands by posting comments on the "WB Classic Animation" facebook page.

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I have already created my own 2 threads in the "Wish Lists" section of the Blu-ray Forum at Blu-ray.com.

I have named them...

"Non-Disney Animated Movies We Want On Blu-Ray"
(the animated movies that are NOT disney movies)
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=220187

&

"Animated TV Programs We Want On Blu-Ray"
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=221058


You can talk about these subjects & make your own wishlists as much as you loved
at the blu-ray.com forums & the IAD forums!

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We got all episodes of "Tiny Toon Adventures" & "Animaniacs" on dvd (except for "Star Warners" which is really in "Pinky & The Brain" Vol. 3),
But there are few of the flaws that must be fixed.


"Animaniacs" Vol. 3: "The Warners & The Beanstalk" had no title card.

"Tiny Toon Adventures" Season 1, Vol. 2: "The Son of the Wacko World of Sports" had lost it's title cards & linking segments,
& "Tiny Toon Music Television" had the "phone number" scene cut out.

"Tiny Toon Adventures" Vol. 4, Looney Links!: "Weekday Afternoon Live" had been abruptly cut to the second half of "Toon TV".


It is now time to tell Warner Bros. Home Video & Warner Bros. Studios to give these dvds the replacement discs!

"Animaniacs" Vol. 3 was released in 2007 & "Tiny Toon Adventures" Season 1, Vol. 2 was released in 2009,
but it is never too late for replacement discs if you never give up demanding WB to produce the replacement discs
(dvd is not retired yet anyway). & "Tiny Toon Adventures" Vol. 4, Looney Links! deserves to have a replacement disc too!

Thankfully,
at the "Tiny Toon Adventures Volume 4 DVD Discussion" thread at
"The Warner Bros. Club" at the "ToonZone" forums,
THGhost has got an e-mail reply from WHV about the "Tiny Toon Adventures Vol. 4" DVD issue.
http://www.toonzone.net/forums/warner-bros-club/301465-tiny-toon-adventures-volume-4-dvd-discussion-3.html

It reads as follows:

"I would be more than happy to help you with this issue. We are aware of the situation and working on a resolution. In the meantime, please respond with an address (along with the store of where you purchased the set) where I can send you a pre-paid label. Once you receive the label, please return the complete set back to me. Once I receive the set , I will then order and send you a new one. I look forward to hearing back from you and I apologize for any inconvenience.

Kind regards,

Sherri Bogard
Warner Bros. Customer Service"

THGhost has posted a link at the "ToonZone" forums to the WarnerBros.com Customer Service so we can send them our e-mails.

So I'm posting this same link here at the IAD forums.
http://www.warnerbros.com/help/customer-service.html

So let us unite, & do the best as we can!
You can create petitions at both care2.com & change.org,
Send mails & e-mails to Warner Bros. Home Video & Warner Bros. Studios,
& post comments on the "WB Classic Animation" facebook page,
So WB will know that we really need the "Tiny Toons" & "Animaniacs" replacement discs!

If any of you reading this are fans of "Tiny Toons" & "Animaniacs", please post a link to this thread at...
the "Golden Age Cartoons" facebook page,
the "General DVD Discussion" section at "DVDizzy.com",
& "The Warner Bros. Club" at the "ToonZone" forums.


So let's go and tell WB that we really deserve the replacement discs!

NOTE : I already created this same thread earlier at the blu-ray.com forums.
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=221466

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