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TTTP In Exile / Re: It's a Grand Old Nag (1947)
« on: December 24, 2014, 08:46:01 am »

(Yeah I know this is an old topic, just adding my Turtle-two-cents worth  ;) ). Wellllll, for the record besides "It's A Grand Old Nag" and the the previously mentioned "Jerky Journeys" released by Republic, Clampett had been supposed to make three more Tru-Color cartoons for them to release.... But then Republic backed out on the deal! Just as an aside, as part of all of my research materials there are a couple of Clampett's original model-sheets for "...Grand Old Nag" that came my way years ago.

...And on the subject of Republic, yep it's true it was viewed as low-budget operation ("Repulsive Pictures" in the early Warner cartoons :P :P). But in reality its owner, Herbert Yates had been one of the biggest producer-distributors in the U.S. and his Consolidated film labs was a major lab (in other words, Yates HAD a fair amount of money to spend). But going into the movie business as late as he did up against the giants of Hollywood as a full-fledged "A" studio would've been ruinous. Sooooo just nip at their heels occasionally with a "A" movie all the while raking in cash on tons of "B" movies and Westerns.

TTTP In Exile / Re: RIP Martha Sigall
« on: December 24, 2014, 08:06:54 am »

Awwww.... Very, very sad to hear this! :(   Martha had a great long career first at the Schlesinger studio then at MGM in the true Golden Age of animation (and then other places). Her latter-day book was a fine, fun read (and a pretty good and fairly intimate view of the Schlesinger place as seen from the ink and paint dept.)
      This Turtle remembers a few years back asking her via email about a previously unknown markedly-VARIANT version of a cel from a scene of Jimmy Stewart from Tex Avery's "Hollywood Steps Out" in which Stewart is depicted clad very DIFFERENTLY than in the actual cartoon. Martha was gracious and kind to answer as best she could (since it had been around 70 years since the cel was made), just a pity she couldn't clear it up completely.
Rest well Martha.

TTTP In Exile / Re: !!! The IAD Forums Will Be Moving !!!
« on: December 15, 2014, 09:09:59 pm »

Hmmmm... Well the seldomly-seen (and nearly forgotten :P) Turtle just registered "over yonder" :bugs:

Welcome back! We've missed you and your turtle-like insights!

Awwww, thank you Brer Eutychus for the extremely kind words, tis very much appreciated here in Turtleville :daffy:! (HEY does the new place let us have colored (as in BLUE :P) font?? ;)

TTTP In Exile / Re: !!! The IAD Forums Will Be Moving !!!
« on: December 14, 2014, 07:51:50 am »

Hmmmm... Well the seldomly-seen (and nearly forgotten :P) Turtle just registered "over yonder" :bugs:


Aw thank you Lynn, Looney Tunes Fan, "Craiggy", Jaboschen, Retro00064, Vdubdavid, Barbezinc, Frizfrelengfan, and R. Araya for all the extremely kind birthday wishes to this slightly demented Turtle, twas much appreciated!!  :bugs2: :daffy:  :snow:  :bosko:  :honey:  :lepew:   :betty:  :red:  :droopy:  :foghorn:  :dodo:  :buddy:  :jerry:  :flip:   :pink:  :yosemite: :fox:  :crow:  :barney:  :sniff:  :porky: :dodo:

TTTP In Exile / Re: Skippy
« on: July 27, 2013, 07:30:32 am »

R. Araya~

    Welllll the Lantz encyclopedia is SORT of correct, as Bill Nolan was one of really only three major non-Disney directors in Hollywood at that time (the other two being Friz Freleng and Tex Avery) he was the logical choice to direct Skippy. But as indicated up above, Nolan abruptly quit after only one (or maybe two cartoons) so he definitely couldn't be termed "the director of a series of Skippy cartoons", more correctly he was the PROPOSED director of a series, but who walked out after a brief turn there.

    To be honest, Nolan appears to have been frantically trying to find a gig as good (or better) than the one he'd had at Universal, he worked as an animator at both MGM and at Mintz for a while. Soooo when the siren call came from Fleischer to be a "head animator" the appeal was irresistible. It's really MORE than a little bit disconcerting that MGM would make somebody like Bob Allen a director instead of Nolan.

TTTP In Exile / Re: Skippy
« on: July 26, 2013, 04:04:23 am »

    Yowp and all~

      YES yours-truly is quite aware that of being 11 months late in posting this ("I've been sick" :tweetie:), but here goes...
Did a fair amount of research into the whole Mayfair "Skippy" cartoon mystery several years ago and I'll add these points from back then... I talked (okay wrote) Mike Barrier AND Percy Crosby's daughter as well for additional info. There was only ONE "Skippy" color cartoon registered for copyright in 1938, BUT according to Mr. Barrier there were actually THREE of them completed before everything fell apart. Neither he now Percy Crosby's daughter know of ANY of them still being in existence (I know, I know, "check the film archives of Outer Mongolia" :P). This Turtle has one of the Percy Crosby contracts for the production of these cartoons in his possession.

     The Mayfair cartoon company had a VERY odd and quirky history during its brief existence. The little studio was indeed loaded with talent but when its director abruptly quit its days were numbered in the extreme (an animator/director took over in his place). Having said that I have to add that the director and then at least one (or more) of the animators THEN fled to the new-born MGM studio and then off to parts hither and yon.... ;)

    Lastly, a LITTLE of the "Skippy" animation art has turned up, BUT it appears to be from a slightly later attempted revival at ANOTHER studio yet! Crazy as that all sounds, but get this, the drawings/model sheets have the names of the animators stamped or written on the oddball animation paper! But if indeed these drawings were done at the studio I suspect, then the finished cartoon never saw the light of day... (And no, I don't know if that might have been because of Crosby's ongoing battle with the Skippy peanut butter brand).


It's frustrating but for whatever reason yours-truly can't seem to remember the IAD url anymore!! Grrr! So annoying to be working on a computer that's only half-working. Nice to be back! (Oh and today's my silly Birthday!!  ;) laughing (so Happy Birthday to myself :bugs2: ).


     "Time-Warner Cable" was spun off from the main company as the result of a VERY hostile takeover bid, this mollified the individual enough as he now had stock in the two surviving SEPARATED companies, Time-Warner and "Time-Warner Cable". You know the excuse "maximize shareholder value".

     This differed from the slightly earlier move that split the fabled music operation off after the European Union halted Warner's acquiring the legendary EMI... In a sickly music world, if you can't grow bigger then you get out. Sad to say.

    And yeah, the cable operations including CN are safe, BUT something like CNN (the news operation) had better do something soon... ;). The Warner and H-B cartoons are apparently mega-safe, since the whole point of acquiring Turner in '97 was to get them!! And then according to one (off the record) exec, the whole point of the 2001 merger with AOL was to destroy TED Turner's power within the company.  :o ::)


     Welllll in the final undoing of the terrible merger which saw the last incarnation of the mucho-famous Warners Cartoon studio unfairly closed down, (I speak of the unspeakable 2001 purchase of "Time-Warner" by one AOL) it was announced that besides having already spun off (dumped) AOL, now Time-Warner is spinning off the once mighty Time publishing empire itself!

     This will have the effect of leaving the surviving "Time-Warner" (why keep THAT name, since it only came about with the 1989 merger?) as a pure entertainment play (just the movie studios, libraries,  TV operations, and presumably the comic book empire).  A nice name for the entertainment company would be "Warner Bros." :bugs:  or even "Warner Communications".

    Have to wonder if NOW they will really re-start (again) the cartoon studio... ?  A Turtle's hope springs eternal. :bugs2: :daffy:

TTTP In Exile / Re: OT: Happy Birthday Jerry Beck
« on: February 10, 2013, 01:53:55 am »

Ooooops, forgot what today was, but Happiest of Happy Birthdays Jerry!!!  :bugs: (from a certain occasionally mangy Turtle)


    Chuckling, sorry about the typo in the title!  :dodo: :o

TTTP In Exile / A VERY quick bit about Schlesinger assistanant animators...
« on: February 08, 2013, 02:52:49 am »

Don't know if it'll interest anybody, but just a quick bit of info... Was going through a few Schlesinger-era drawings and as I unmatted a few of them was pleased to discover a few of the assistants initials on their work... Amongst them was a "R.S." (Rod Scribner) from a Hardaway-Dalton epic, an "F.P." (standing for Frank Powers) on the animated trees from "Corny Concerto"!    :bugs2:

TTTP In Exile / Re: Slightly off-topic...
« on: February 08, 2013, 02:45:12 am »

    Hey my friend Jaboschen~
     Tis okay, nothing to apologize about, the Turtle's front paw (i.e. hand) is healed even though a little pain remains to taunt...  ::) Now in a few hours comes a lovely surgery on the right retina to try to fix once and for all very old lingering injury (HEY, nobody loves a half-blind turtle :dodo:).

TTTP In Exile / Re: Slightly off-topic...
« on: January 27, 2013, 07:42:51 am »

      Thank you all (Eutychus, Steve Stanchfield, Craid D., Frizfrelengfan, Lynn, R. Araya, Vdubdavid, Nickramer) for the extremely kind words and well wishing!! (Thought the Turtle paw was well till this morning when the rainy weather came and I bumped the paw on something just a mite! Ohmygosh!  :o )

     And Eutychus, I was sorry to read that YOU broke YOUR wrist a while back, hope that's been healing properly!!

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