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Mesterius
2019-11-25T14:19:38Z
Originally Posted by: willoughbyfan 

Originally Posted by: nickramer 

There also been a lot of complaints about "The Simpsons" being stretched and cropped as well. I hope the service will listen to the complaints. This isn't something hardcore fans will take lying down knowing these type of viewers.



Apparently, Disney+ did listen to the fan complaints about the Simpsons . The 4:3 aspect ratio versions should be up some time next year:

Quote:

“We presented “The Simpsons” in 16:9 aspect ratio at launch in order to guarantee visual quality and consistency across all 30 seasons. Over time, Disney+ will roll out new features and additional viewing options. As part of this, in early 2020, Disney+ will make the first 19 seasons (and some episodes from Season 20) of “The Simpsons” available in their original 4:3 aspect ratio, giving subscribers a choice of how they prefer to view the popular series.”



However, I wouldn't read too much into them responding to fan complaints because of this. The Simpsons World app already had the 4:3 versions available on it--that app was taken down the day before Disney+ launched. So they've already made them available for streaming before, and it's just a matter of uploading them onto the new service. For anything that would actually require a fresh, new re-scan, I doubt there's much hope for complaints to be listened to, unless they think it's affecting their subscriber-ship/bottom line significantly.



The HD-restored Disney Afternoon shows that are cropped, though - Goof Troop, Chip 'n' Dale Rescue Rangers, The Little Mermaid, a few episodes of Pooh - can be fixed without any additional work. These remasters all exist in both fullscreen and cropped widescreen versions.
PorkyPigfan90
2019-11-29T20:27:40Z
The first season of the original Mickey Mouse Club is also on the app. 3 of 5 episodes feature classic cartoons. Episode 1 features Pueblo Pluto (1949), episode 2 features Mickey's Kangaroo (1935) and episode 4 has the Wise Little Hen(1934). All of them are missing their opening title cards and are in black and white.
Mesterius
2019-11-30T00:58:35Z
Originally Posted by: PorkyPigfan90 

The first season of the original Mickey Mouse Club is also on the app. 3 of 5 episodes feature classic cartoons. Episode 1 features Pueblo Pluto (1949), episode 2 features Mickey's Kangaroo (1935) and episode 4 has the Wise Little Hen(1934). All of them are missing their opening title cards and are in black and white.



The first season only consists of 5 episodes?
ToonStar95
2019-11-30T01:05:00Z
Originally Posted by: Mesterius 

Originally Posted by: PorkyPigfan90 

The first season of the original Mickey Mouse Club is also on the app. 3 of 5 episodes feature classic cartoons. Episode 1 features Pueblo Pluto (1949), episode 2 features Mickey's Kangaroo (1935) and episode 4 has the Wise Little Hen(1934). All of them are missing their opening title cards and are in black and white.



The first season only consists of 5 episodes?



It's the same bunch that was on that Walt Disney Treasures set from 2005. The first Spin and Marty series is also on there by itself.
DawnShadow
2019-11-30T02:49:45Z
Is either show in HD?
Mesterius
2019-11-30T03:29:31Z
Originally Posted by: ToonStar95 

Originally Posted by: Mesterius 

Originally Posted by: PorkyPigfan90 

The first season of the original Mickey Mouse Club is also on the app. 3 of 5 episodes feature classic cartoons. Episode 1 features Pueblo Pluto (1949), episode 2 features Mickey's Kangaroo (1935) and episode 4 has the Wise Little Hen(1934). All of them are missing their opening title cards and are in black and white.



The first season only consists of 5 episodes?



It's the same bunch that was on that Walt Disney Treasures set from 2005. The first Spin and Marty series is also on there by itself.



Oh, that's disappointing. And those 5 episodes are ALL there is of the Mickey Mouse Club on Disney+? I was hoping there might be some episodes that never got released on DVD.
VoiceTalentBrendan
2019-11-30T09:59:23Z
Season one? More like Week one of Season one.
PopKorn Kat
2019-11-30T19:42:51Z
In regards to comments asking if stuff is in HD...I honestly don't know. There's no resolution toggle like on YouTube, and there's no indicator of whether something's in HD.
PopKorn Kat
2020-03-18T18:54:29Z
More shorts are scheduled for release on Disney+ next month.  For those who can't read the link, they are:
  • In a Nutshell
  • Don's Fountain of Youth
  • Donald's Dog Laundry
  • Double Dribble
  • Dragon Around
  • Elmer Elephant
  • How to Play Football
  • Lambert the Sheepish Lion
  • On Ice
  • Out of Scale
  • Pluto's Party
  • Sea Scouts
  • The New Neighbor
  • The Small One

nickramer
2020-03-19T03:19:10Z
Also, two of the three Tomorrowland episodes of "Disneyland" (including "Mars and Beyond") that Ward Kimball worked on will also be added.
WaltWiz1901
2020-04-03T14:20:04Z
Had a look at Lambert the Sheepish Lion and The Small One today. I can confirm the following:
- Both are in HD and are new transfers
- Oddly, Lambert now opens and closes with the "Silly Symphony" series slates. Not sure why whoever was in charge of recreating missing original title sequences would do that (did Disney really continue the "Silly Symphony" series thirteen years or so after abandoning it? The original theatrical poster classifies Lambert as a "cartoon special", not a "Silly Symphony"), but it's still worth pointing out
- Small One is a matted 1.66:1 transfer (the home video releases of that short have always used a 1.33:1 open matte transfer) and appears to have film grain intact. If only Mickey's Christmas Carol was like that, too...
Thad Komorowski
2020-04-04T17:40:21Z
The Lambert title screw-up is just due to the general incompetence that goes into "restoring" these things (see The Simple Things with its 1940 copyright date); it emphatically was NOT a Silly Symphony, and it now has the same MPAA code as The Ugly Duckling. Fortunately, only a very small percentage of the shorts have been "restored" thus far (probably around 25%, but no more than 30%; don't believe anything anyone else says), so it's kind of a relief more were not subjected to this treatment.
Thad Komorowski
2020-04-05T02:10:56Z
BTW, that Donald's Dog Laundry on Disney + is standard def from the Disney Treasures set.
dbear
2020-04-05T14:03:52Z
The Lambert remaster stems from a collection of shorts which first appeared on Netflix years ago. The contents correspond roughly to Walt Disney Animation Collection: Classic Short Films DVD compilations (possibly an aborted attempt at a Blu-ray upgrade?). IIRC Chicken Little also erroneously had Silly Symphony titles as well.

All the remastered shorts which first popped up in these Netflix collections look horrifically waxy, even more so than the Have a Laugh "restorations". The B&W shorts (Gulliver Mickey and Ye Olden Days) are practically unwatchable IMO.

Mesterius
2020-04-05T14:31:49Z
Originally Posted by: dbear 

The Lambert remaster stems from a collection of shorts which first appeared on Netflix years ago. The contents correspond roughly to Walt Disney Animation Collection: Classic Short Films DVD compilations (possibly an aborted attempt at a Blu-ray upgrade?). IIRC Chicken Little also erroneously had Silly Symphony titles as well.

All the remastered shorts which first popped up in these Netflix collections look horrifically waxy, even more so than the Have a Laugh "restorations". The B&W shorts (Gulliver Mickey and Ye Olden Days) are practically unwatchable IMO.



Yeah, I remember checking out a few of the shorts from the Netflix HD release several years ago. I couldn't watch more than a few minutes. There was a segment with Ludwig Von Drake from Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color that was literally destroyed by smearing and DVNR.
Thad Komorowski
2020-04-06T17:57:48Z
Sampling them in drips and drabs, I have to say a chunk of the '50s Chip an' Dales look perfectly acceptable (done back in 2010/11), in terms of retaining unaltered color and actual film grain; although the titles are still obviously faked/wrong (in Out of Scale's case, it uses the titles from Sea Scouts with that cartoon's MPAA code). In fact, the copyright dates on most of the cartoons are wrong. We can only hope the remaining 70% of the library isn't subjected to the same lack of oversight.
fulano7
2020-04-09T01:21:06Z
Originally Posted by: Thad Komorowski 

The Lambert title screw-up is just due to the general incompetence that goes into "restoring" these things (see The Simple Things with its 1940 copyright date); it emphatically was NOT a Silly Symphony, and it now has the same MPAA code as The Ugly Duckling. Fortunately, only a very small percentage of the shorts have been "restored" thus far (probably around 25%, but no more than 30%; don't believe anything anyone else says), so it's kind of a relief more were not subjected to this treatment.



This is atrocious. So in any subsequent official release (via physical media or streaming), we are getting digitally destroyed films. Are these versions the definitive versions? I mean: do they keep the original, non-destroyed films preserved in some way?? I know it's a little bit of paranoid, but it wouldn't surprise me if Disney actually destroys original elements and keeps only the "definitive/restored" masters.
I always come to TTTP in Exile in the hope of finding news about Warner announcing Tex Avery Collection.
VoiceTalentBrendan
2020-04-09T02:21:57Z
some more examples:

The Small One 1978 like Aladdin (1992) while beautifully remastered still suffers from soundtrack censorship alterations from 2005 and 2009 where a different barbershop qaurtett (Disneyland's Daper Dans?) voices the three merchants in the censored sections of the song "The Merchant Song"

Original 1978: "Simply Cheat a Little If We Must."

2005/2009 dvd release and 2020 Disney+ soundtrack "Work a Little Harder If We Must"


even the classic Disney live action films aren't exempt.

Darby O' Gill and The Little People (1959) on Disney+ has the 1969 redub where Darby sounds more Alan Young and less of Albert Sharpe. It's the very same version they showed on TCM.

Movies Anywhere has Darby O' Gill with the true 1959 soundtrack.


Extended cuts for Bedknobs and Broomsticks, The Happiest Millionare, The Muppet Christmas Carol, The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe, Beauty and the Beast 1991, The Lion King 1994, and Pocahantas 1995 are not present on Disney+

But the only extended cut of a classic Disney film that Disney is cool with is the Restored 124 minute Roadshow cut of Fantasia 1940 with restored and longer onscreen footage of the film's host Deems Taylor with his voice redubbed by Cory Burton.

Deems voice tracks still exist only in shorter form since the 1946/1956 reissues and lastly in 1990 and in vhs and laserdisc from the early 90's
VoiceTalentBrendan
2020-04-09T03:14:17Z
and even more appalling is the UK cut of Lilo and Stitch is on the U.S. Disney+

https://www.movie-censor...ifI8BewvksYL2ILFJHRdBa0s 

“The scene where Lilo hides from her older sister in the dryer had to be edited to get an U-Rating. The appliance was therefore changed to a commode with a pizza box to prevent little kids from imitating to hide in the dryer.”
Thad Komorowski
2020-04-09T15:24:17Z
No, they are emphatically not destroying or purging original materials. But you can probably assume these will be the standard versions used hereon.