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OutOfOdor  
#1 Posted : Sunday, February 3, 2019 8:15:04 AM(UTC)
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https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4830ti
Release Date: June 5, 1943
Direction: Tex Avery
Story: uncredited on circulating copies, apparently Rich Hogan
Animation: no animators credited, but likely Ray Abrams, Preston Blair and Ed Love
Music: Scott Bradley
Film Editor: Fred MacAlpin
Backgrounds: probably Johnny Johnsen
Cast: Robert Emmett O'Connor (host, live-action), Billy Bletcher (detective, laughter, Santa), Kent Rogers (The Victim, Red Skeleton, falling body), Sara Berner (screams, cuckoo clock)
Summary: A portly detective tries to solve a murder mystery in a haunted house.
Useless Tidbit of Information You Probably Know Already But I'm Posting It Here Anyway:l the falling body gag (minus the "Ah, yes!" line of dialogue) was used by Warner Bros. in So You Want to be a Detective? (1948), a Joe McDoakes comedy starring George O'Hanlon. Probably coincidental, but still worth mentioning.

This month's entry happens to be one of my favorites from the genius that was Tex Avery, a perfect cartoon for viewing around Halloween, or any time really. This is one of his earliest cartoons for MGM, and one of his best IMO, with laughs practically every fifteen seconds! A great twist at the end, a live-action intro, self-referential book covers, trademark Avery signs... so much I love about this one. Words kinda fail me here, but feel free to discuss below.

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"With all respect to the great mousetrap."- Popeye, "The Spinach Overture" (1935)
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#2 Posted : Sunday, February 3, 2019 11:30:35 AM(UTC)
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I agree. Most of the gags here hit bullseyes and is guaranteed to have you at least snickering all the way through. I think my favorite gag has to be the murder victim suddenly getting up to pose for his picture ("Now let's not get nosy, bub!").

What I also like about it is the musical score (sans title cues) is performed on an organ to spoof radio mystery programs, but it still has the trademarks of Scott Bradley's repertoire (i.e., the sexy theme that plays when the pinup poster appears).
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#3 Posted : Monday, February 4, 2019 9:09:42 AM(UTC)
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For what it's worth, magnil posted an extended Twitter thread in which he tried to break down who animated what, you can see it here (he indeed guesses Abrams, Blair, and Love). https://twitter.com/ma_x...tatus/912685850336550912
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OutOfOdor  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 5, 2019 7:42:46 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Toadette Go to Quoted Post
For what it's worth, magnil posted an extended Twitter thread in which he tried to break down who animated what, you can see it here (he indeed guesses Abrams, Blair, and Love). https://twitter.com/ma_x...tatus/912685850336550912


Thanks for the link! Interesting that some of the drawings of the detective (albeit with alterations) showed up in Preston Blair's famous animation book.
"With all respect to the great mousetrap."- Popeye, "The Spinach Overture" (1935)
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 5, 2019 8:27:52 AM(UTC)
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is the detective in this cartoon a caricature of the detective from The Laurel and Hardy Murder Case (1930)?
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 5, 2019 10:28:07 AM(UTC)
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is the detective in this cartoon a caricature of the detective from The Laurel and Hardy Murder Case (1930)?


That's correct, the detective is indeed based on character actor Fred Kelsey.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2019 7:28:13 AM(UTC)
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For what it's worth, magnil posted an extended Twitter thread in which he tried to break down who animated what, you can see it here (he indeed guesses Abrams, Blair, and Love). https://twitter.com/ma_x...tatus/912685850336550912


Thanks for the link! Interesting that some of the drawings of the detective (albeit with alterations) showed up in Preston Blair's famous animation book.


Weren't the drawings in the first (1947) edition of that book the original ones? I know Blair made changes for the later edition (so that no one would sue him for the use of the Disney and MGM characters, I suppose), but the first edition seems to use the original artwork: http://web.archive.org/w...lairs-animation-1st.html
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