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#101 Posted : Thursday, July 4, 2019 2:43:35 AM(UTC)
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I finally got a copy. Best Buy originally estimated delivery on July 8, but once it shipped out, they changed that estimate to July 5, but then it just so happens that the USPS delivered it to my door this afternoon, July 3.
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#102 Posted : Thursday, July 4, 2019 11:25:35 AM(UTC)
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I'm testing some new Blu-ray software, so I figured I'd snag some HD grabs for everyone. Just a random mish mash of stuff.



Love the look of the flame coming out of his pipe. Textured stuff like that, especially flames look really great on the Blu. The big snowball chasing Olive down the ski slope looked great too, but I couldn't find it when I was grabbing shots.

fire


This scene from Island Fling inside the alligator/crocodile was always really dark and nasty in existing prints...no more.

fling


Popeye's outfit is blue. They certainly didn't do that very often.

piano


Close ups look really great, terrific detail. I had some other stuff in mind, but couldn't find them when I was testing the software, so you get this one.

hair


And this one...I admit, I didn't realize Popeye and Bluto were so close...


pals

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#103 Posted : Thursday, July 18, 2019 9:49:49 AM(UTC)
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I can't believe that anyone who has seen how incompetent/lying corporations can be would actually be in favor of having those incompetent, lying corporations even more in control of content through streaming.


I see no logic in supporting streaming, considering where I live movies tend to disappear from the service at a given time, while DVDs and Blu-rays don't.
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#104 Posted : Thursday, August 1, 2019 8:42:55 AM(UTC)
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Volume 3 was comfirmed on Stu Show.
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#105 Posted : Thursday, August 1, 2019 11:10:55 AM(UTC)
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I'm assuming this will include "Olive Oyl for President" (1949).
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#106 Posted : Thursday, August 1, 2019 6:53:59 PM(UTC)
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volume 3 is expected to be released before the end of the year as per stu's show
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#107 Posted : Thursday, August 1, 2019 7:19:08 PM(UTC)
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Volume 3 was comfirmed on Stu Show.


It's been confirmed a long time ago. ;)
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#108 Posted : Sunday, August 11, 2019 6:34:24 AM(UTC)
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I have finally been able to see these cartoons restored and oh my, they are stunning, I have to say. For instance, I must have watched "The Royal Four-Flusher" so many times I know it by heart, but seeing the restored version was like watching an alternative, better version of it.

That being said, there is always something for nit-pickers, and I'll take that role here and point out some things which haven't been yet discussed. Leviathan has already stated that "Rocket to Mars" and "All's Fair at the Fair" look a bit worse than the other cartoons. The truth is that the quality varies from title to title, but Mars is definitely the worst-looking cartoon. Don't get me wrong - it's nowhere near bad, but also nowhere near "Wotta Knight", for instance. The colors are all there, but not the clarity. Can anyone confirm whether there were different elements used or the negatives just vary in coniditon?

The sound quality has definitely taken a turn to the worse compared to Vol. 1. That release had only three cartoons whose audio stood out: "The Anvil Chorus Girl" (very distorted original track which should have been replaced), "She-Sick Sailors" (presumably the same element which Turner used in the 1990s) and "For Better or Nurse" (you know about that one).
Here, almost every cartoon seems to sound different as if its audio was sourced from a different place. "Service with a Guile" has its original audio but does not sound so well with a lot of hissing noise in the background. "Peep in the Deep" and "Rocket to Mars" sound no better than they did on old TV prints so they also definitely weren't sourced from the originals. The biggest offenser is "All's Fair at the Fair" as it's so fuzzy and low - you actually have to up your volume after the tacked on title theme ends. As for the other cartoons which miss their original cues, Rodeo and Flusher sound fine while the other two not so much and were probably sourced from TV prints we are used to seeing. That's especially obvious on "The Island Fling", whose bloated soundtrack is the same that can be heard here.

Another word on the sound editing. The recreated closing cues are really lame. They just took the closing from "Abusement Park" and used it all four times. A little bit of inventiveness would have been appreciated, especially since the majority of the cartoons end with a rendition of The Sailor's Hornpipe. That's obvious on "The Island Fling", whose ending completely doesn't fit. There are many things you could do with it: for instance, take Peep in the Deep's ending and scale the pitch higher a bit. Voila, you have something that fits. This is just lazy editing. Also, to better fit the iris outs, they cut a snippet from Rodeo and echoed the ending for Fling.

I should also mention that several cartoons have subsituted audio on the openings and for two reasons. It's off-sync on "Abusement Park" by a few frames and I find it a bit hilarious that instead of plastering the whole theme on "Rodeo Romeo" like they did on the others, they decided to use the a.a.p. master for the titles' opening and closing and use another source for the credits title. I hope the sound editing gets a bit better and more original materials are found for the next volume because those Polacolor titles really sound worn out.

Some of you may see this audio rant the post has turned into as completely unnecessary, but I would disagree. These cartoons' visuals are represented immaculately, so when the sound does not follow suit it does stick out. I hope the three cartoons which Thad (btw, Thad, the story of how you found them would probably make a great blog post) has found cues for get them when they eventually get rereleased on some platform, but that would really be a surprise as most people disregard the sound in the overall presentation, even though they shouldn't.

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#109 Posted : Sunday, August 11, 2019 6:52:44 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pasko Go to Quoted Post
Leviathan has already stated that "Rocket to Mars" and "All's Fair at the Fair" look a bit worse than the other cartoons. The truth is that the quality varies from title to title, but Mars is definitely the worst-looking cartoon. Don't get me wrong - it's nowhere near bad, but also nowhere near "Wotta Knight", for instance. The colors are all there, but not the clarity. Can anyone confirm whether there were different elements used or the negatives just vary in coniditon?


Rocket to Mars and All's Fair at the Fair look slightly grainier than the other shorts because they were produced in Cinecolor, rather than Technicolor. So, technically, they should look like that.
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#110 Posted : Sunday, August 11, 2019 7:27:57 AM(UTC)
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Then why do Peep in the Deep and Abusement Park look much better? They were also produced in Cinecolor.Think
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#111 Posted : Sunday, August 11, 2019 8:49:50 AM(UTC)
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Then why do Peep in the Deep and Abusement Park look much better? They were also produced in Cinecolor.Think


Good question.
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#112 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2019 3:03:37 AM(UTC)
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They probably won't be correcting those cues ever. I had offered them For Better or Nurse, to at least use/update the track for whatever archival master there is, and it was curtly declined, they "don't want to revisit that title." Sorry, I tried!
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#113 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2019 6:31:20 AM(UTC)
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They probably won't be correcting those cues ever. I had offered them For Better or Nurse, to at least use/update the track for whatever archival master there is, and it was curtly declined, they "don't want to revisit that title." Sorry, I tried!


This is the kind of stuff you'd hope at least Warner Archive would care about. The Pink Panther Blu-rays have included corrected versions of some films in the special features of subsequent volumes. Why not do the same for the Popeye releases (where there's obviously room for more shorts on each disc)?
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#114 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2019 1:36:58 PM(UTC)
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Why not do the same for the Popeye releases (where there's obviously room for more shorts on each disc)?


'Cause they're lazy? Duh. 😜
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#115 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2019 8:24:22 PM(UTC)
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Why not do the same for the Popeye releases (where there's obviously room for more shorts on each disc)?


'Cause they're lazy? Duh. 😜


Warner Archive at least doesn't use DVNR, which some of the Pink Panther Blu-rays sadly have. But yeah, that's probably the number one reason.
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#116 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2019 11:09:10 AM(UTC)
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Why not do the same for the Popeye releases (where there's obviously room for more shorts on each disc)?


'Cause they're lazy? Duh. 😜


Or probably cause they didn't want to go though similar problems again like the Porky set.
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#117 Posted : Saturday, August 17, 2019 3:54:45 AM(UTC)
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Why not do the same for the Popeye releases (where there's obviously room for more shorts on each disc)?


'Cause they're lazy? Duh. 😜


Or probably cause they didn't want to go though similar problems again like the Porky set.


What "similar problems"? We're talking about correcting cartoons with errors in them. That's exactly what they didn't do with Porky Pig 101.
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#118 Posted : Saturday, August 17, 2019 10:24:47 AM(UTC)
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I meant releasing quantity over quality.
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#119 Posted : Saturday, August 17, 2019 9:22:33 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nickramer Go to Quoted Post
I meant releasing quantity over quality.


Then I don't quite understand what you mean in the context of this discussion. We were talking about how it's sad that Warner/WAC doesn't want to revisit and correct opening title cues for the already-released Popeye cartoons.
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#120 Posted : Saturday, August 17, 2019 9:24:32 PM(UTC)
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BREAKING NEWS!

Popeye the Sailor: The 1940s, Volume 3 cover art is finally here!

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