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bodek610
2018-03-05T19:03:08Z
Originally Posted by: LuckyToon 

Originally Posted by: bodek610 

Little Quacker, 1950 has its original opening title card restored (it is available via Amazon Prime Video Germany and YouTube for $1,99.



It's also on Vimeo  and Dailymotion  to watch for free.



That user who uploaded that original version got this short from me and I got from other person.
LuckyToon
2018-03-05T21:18:36Z
Originally Posted by: Mesterius 

It should be mentioned though that Puss Gets the Boot and The Night Before Christmas always had their original titles, so those aren't exactly modern finds.



Except the remastered DVD release of Puss Gets the Boot is an early 60's reissue print. Although most of the presentation of the original opening titles are there, the only exception is the "MGM Cartoon" title card. Since it's been recreated and doesn't have the red "In Technicolor" byline in the title.

I can prove it by comparing both the Turner print and the remastered DVD print.

Original MGM Cartoon Title Card
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Reissue MGM Cartoon Title Card
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Mesterius
2018-03-05T22:40:23Z
Originally Posted by: LuckyToon 

Originally Posted by: Mesterius 

It should be mentioned though that Puss Gets the Boot and The Night Before Christmas always had their original titles, so those aren't exactly modern finds.



Except the remastered DVD release of Puss Gets the Boot is an early 60's reissue print. Although most of the presentation of the original opening titles are there, the only exception is the "MGM Cartoon" title card. Since it's been recreated and doesn't have the red "In Technicolor" byline in the title.

I can prove it by comparing both the Turner print and the remastered DVD print.

Original MGM Cartoon Title Card
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Reissue MGM Cartoon Title Card
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Interesting. I'm assuming it has been documented that the "In Technicolor" title card is the older version, then? (It certainly makes sense, since the MGM cartoons had switched fully to color only very recently.)

This makes me wonder what the original source for the Turner TV print was. Was it simply a different CRI safety print -- which, for whatever reason, wasn't used to remaster the cartoon for DVD and Blu-ray? Also, I guess this should mean that the unrestored "Classic Collection" PAL DVD release includes the "In Technicolor" version.
Jason Todd
2018-03-06T01:44:16Z
I want to learn how to digitally restore the correct title sequences to Puss Gets the Boot myself. The cartoon itself doesn't need any additional restoration (Warner's print of that short looks good enough, in my opinion), but the weird, obvious 1960s television dupe titles bother me.
LuckyToon
2018-03-06T15:17:21Z
Originally Posted by: Jason Todd 

I want to learn how to digitally restore the correct title sequences to Puss Gets the Boot myself. The cartoon itself doesn't need any additional restoration (Warner's print of that short looks good enough, in my opinion), but the weird, obvious 1960s television dupe titles bother me.



Not to worry, I did it already just now. I actually took the MGM Cartoon title from "Piece on Earth" (1939) and restored the title in the way how it was shown in Puss Gets the Boot. I used Photoshop to remaster it.

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Mesterius
2018-03-06T16:26:35Z
Originally Posted by: LuckyToon 

Originally Posted by: Jason Todd 

I want to learn how to digitally restore the correct title sequences to Puss Gets the Boot myself. The cartoon itself doesn't need any additional restoration (Warner's print of that short looks good enough, in my opinion), but the weird, obvious 1960s television dupe titles bother me.



Not to worry, I did it already just now. I actually took the MGM Cartoon title from "Piece on Earth" (1939) and restored the title in the way how it was shown in Puss Gets the Boot. I used Photoshop to remaster it.

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But it's not 100% accurate. "Puss Gets the Boot" is from 1940, while "Peace on Earth" is from 1939. So the Roman numerals for the copyrighted year are different. In your fan-edited framegrab from Peace on Earth it says MCMXXXIX (1939), while the original title card for Puss Gets the Boot says MCMXL (1940). You can see it in this video , which is sharp enough to read the numerals.
bodek610
2018-03-06T17:28:14Z
This should look better, but it isn't perfect at all.

Puss Gets the Boot
Thad Komorowski
2018-03-06T17:35:55Z
Puss Gets the Boot is sourced from the TV neg. I've had film prints of those cartoons with the big bold MGM logo redone to remove the Technicolor credit, which then jumpcuts to further in the cartoon's credits. Unlike with the other T&Js sourced from TV negs, Boot is still a significant upgrade from the old copies.
Mesterius
2018-03-06T19:41:04Z
Originally Posted by: Thad Komorowski 

Puss Gets the Boot is sourced from the TV neg. I've had film prints of those cartoons with the big bold MGM logo redone to remove the Technicolor credit, which then jumpcuts to further in the cartoon's credits. Unlike with the other T&Js sourced from TV negs, Boot is still a significant upgrade from the old copies.



Ah, so it's sourced from the same kind of TV print used to remaster the ten inferior-looking cartoons on T&J Golden Collection Volume 1, in other words. That explains why the reference to Technicolor was removed (to quote your review  from back then, "because there was no intention of these versions ever replicating it").

I'll agree about the quality of the "Boot" print -- the colors on the restored Blu-ray look good enough that I could have easily believed it was real Technicolor. Plus, it doesn't have the obviously-out-of-place 60s MGM lion in the start -- I guess this print was struck at an earlier time?
Daffyrocks18
2018-03-11T19:30:46Z
Originally Posted by: Thad Komorowski 

Hey, guys. To end speculation, I was the buyer. The print is just OK—obviously a modern reduction dupe from a turning 35mm element, and it looks like there were some printing errors after the titles (causing the misframing one of you noted) in the first minute. It's a cool curio for the original credits/font style for a cartoon that is not-one-of-my-favorites, but probably useless for restoration purposes, since Warners won't work from 16mm (as Steve and I have reported in the past) and especially since it's one of the two titles that's kept the second T&J set in unreleased hell. Oh well!


Oh. Then I hope you will be nice enough to upload the original titles to your Youtube channel 😇

"WOO HOO! WOO HOO! WOO HOO-HOO-HOO-HOO!!!!"
Matteen
2018-08-02T18:23:41Z
Hey everyone! I found an original print of the [tom] and [jerry] cartoon "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Mouse."

Here is the website:
https://www.ebay.com/itm...p;_trksid=p2047675.l2557 
Jason Todd
2018-08-02T19:11:43Z
Originally Posted by: Matteen 

Hey everyone! I found an original print of the [tom] and [jerry] cartoon "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Mouse."

Here is the website:
https://www.ebay.com/itm...p;_trksid=p2047675.l2557 



I think it's amazing that so many more Tom and Jerry cartoons exist in prints that retain the original titles than any of us were previously aware of...
Mesterius
2018-08-02T19:21:18Z
Originally Posted by: Matteen 

Hey everyone! I found an original print of the [tom] and [jerry] cartoon "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Mouse."

Here is the website:
https://www.ebay.com/itm...p;_trksid=p2047675.l2557 



Damn, only in black and white. And it looks just like the original title card shot which can be seen in Thad's online MGM filmography  too:

whataboutthad.com

eBay

I wonder if we'll ever see this title card in color.
Matteen
2019-03-02T23:44:09Z
HEY Everyone! I found an MGM cartoon "The Little Goldfish" (1939). Even with it's original MGM opening.


ORIGINAL TITLES HAVE BEEN FOUND!
Einhander
2019-03-03T03:26:04Z
Originally Posted by: Matteen 

HEY Everyone! I found an MGM cartoon "The Little Goldfish" (1939). Even with it's original MGM opening.


ORIGINAL TITLES HAVE BEEN FOUND!




Very nice, although the colors are quite frankly bad.

I'm curious as to where all these prints with original titles come from. The original negs were destroyed in the George Eastman House fire, which occured in 1978, by which point TV was a norm. It's quite possible that some of the dupes made for TV had the original titles for the cartoons. Maybe they lurk under us.....
Matteen
2019-03-07T01:52:08Z
HEY Everyone! I found an MGM cartoon "The Little Goldfish" (1939). Even with it's original MGM opening.


ORIGINAL TITLES HAVE BEEN FOUND! Only 2 days left until sold out! So Somebody please buy it!



Original 1939 prints:

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eutychus
2019-03-08T14:27:09Z
I've deleted th links to where these can be found. In the future, it is our policy, since we really don't want these to fall into the hands of someone who won't appreciate them, to message someone privately (such as Steve Stanchfield) who might be able to use then better. Thanks!
Zachary
2019-07-03T01:30:58Z
Wow, looks like cartoon98100 (same guy who got that original-titled Super 8 print of The Milky Waif a while back) came into possession of an original release 35mm IB Technicolor safety print of Casanova Cat recently (probably the same print as this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm...cvip=true&nordt=true ). He's seeking donations toward 4K scans of this and other rarities he owns:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJlMVvN_Lpo 

He's also acquired a few more Super 8 prints of The Milky Waif with original titles, one in B&W and all with sound.
Matteen
2020-01-02T20:38:35Z
Hey everyone!

I found the lost print to the [tom] and [jerry] cartoon, "Old Rockin' Chair Tom"

Here's the link: [link removed]
Jason Todd
2020-01-02T22:34:58Z
Originally Posted by: Matteen 

Hey everyone!

I found the lost print to the [tom] and [jerry] cartoon, "Old Rockin' Chair Tom"

Here's the link: [link removed]



This is an amazing find! If I were you, I would contact either Thad Komorowski, Steve Stanchfield or Jerry Beck privately, and notify them. We don’t want a rarity like this to potentially fall into the wrong hands.