LuckyToon
2015-01-20T07:50:14Z
Back then, I thought of making a reboot of the classic Hanna-Barbera cartoons of the 50's and 60's as a TV series for Boomerang. Then when I was watching the current Mickey Mouse shorts on YouTube, I instead thought of making it as a series of 4 to 5 min. shorts shown in between shows as filler.

The reboots would focus more on the humor from the Looney Tunes and Tex Avery cartoons, and the animation would be a mix of both the original limited animation with SOME Ren & Stimpy animation (only for the facial expressions). And the series would make heavy uses of Hanna-Barbera's trademark sound effects (unlike the current Scooby Doo TV shows and direct-to-video shows).

So what do you think of my idea?
Toadette
2015-01-20T16:45:56Z
I hope I don't appear too harsh here. (Hey-hey-hey!)

You don't need Ren & Stimpy animation for wonderful facial expressions. (Heck, limited animation doesn't always mean bland animation.) The original cartoons, especially the first season of the Huckleberry Hound Show, had their moments of very fun animation and expressions.

Said animation was done by professionals like Carlo Vinci, Mike Lah, Ken Muse, Lew Marshall, George Nicholas (who joined beginning with Huck's second season), Ed Love (ditto), Dick Lundy (also a second-seasoner), and Don Patterson (same here) who are dead now. Most likely the animation today would be outsourced to some outfit where differentiation between animators is practically impossible.

And the designers, like Ed Benedict, Walt Clinton, Dick Bickenbach, Tony Rivera, and even Iwao Takamoto, are mostly dead too. (There's Jerry Eisenberg, but he's quite old now...by the time you could ever pitch this project to WBA, he'll probably be dead.)

Richard H. Thomas and Fernando Montealegre are dead; I believe Art Lozzi is still alive, but he's living in Greece.

Mike Maltese and Warren Foster--who, of course, were Looney Tunes writers as well, and in fact reused some gags and routines from Looney Tunes--are dead. Charlie Shows and Dan Gordon are dead. Earl Kress is dead. Tony Benedict (who has a lovely blog here ) is retired, and like Eisenberg will probably be gone in a few decades.

Daws Butler and Don Messick are dead.

And, to sum it all up, cel animation itself is dead as a "mainstream" medium.

Of course, I could just be a fuddy-duddy. Maybe, like the [mickey] shorts, there's still potential for new good shorts featuring Yogi, Huck, the meeces, Quick Draw, Snooper and Blabber, and Augie Doggie. But if there aren't any decent writers and animators and designers (and voice actors!) on board who love these characters and know what makes them tick, then leave well enough alone.
LuckyToon
2015-01-20T17:02:39Z
Originally Posted by: Toadette 

I hope I don't appear too harsh here. (Hey-hey-hey!)

You don't need Ren & Stimpy animation for wonderful facial expressions. (Heck, limited animation doesn't always mean bland animation.) The original cartoons, especially the first season of the Huckleberry Hound Show, had their moments of very fun animation and expressions.

Of course, I could just be a fuddy-duddy. Maybe, like the [mickey] shorts, there's still potential for new good shorts featuring Yogi, Huck, the meeces, Quick Draw, Snooper and Blabber, and Augie Doggie. But if there aren't any decent writers and animators and designers (and voice actors!) on board who love these characters and know what makes them tick, then leave well enough alone.



Well then how come Bob Jaques created The Baby Huey Show that has a similarity to Ren & Stimpy on its animation and the facial expressions? Huh? Although it's not as gross as Ren & Stimpy.

I can at least try to find some writers and animators who are only fans of the classics. As well as both the current voice actors and some new voice actors to play the Hanna-Barbera characters in the new shorts.
Toadette
2015-01-20T17:21:48Z
Sheesh, you don't have to be so rude. My point is that you don't always need Ren & Stimpy-esque expressions in order to get a wonderful take across. (I dare say that some of them may have even originated in early Hanna-Barbera stuff--see this  and this , for instance. Of course, John Kricfalusi is a fan of the early H-B cartoons.) Bob Jaques, in any event, is a Fleischer-Famous historian who knew what he was doing on the new [huey] show...but revivals like that and the new [mickey] shorts are generally the exception rather than the rule.

If you're looking for writers, I'd suggest Mark Evanier.
Justin Delbert
2015-01-20T17:34:15Z
I'm sorry, but I'm on Toadette's side of things. They DID do Yogi Bear the style of Ren and Stimpy. In fact, it was done by Spumco (same studio). News flash...I didn't like it. I rank it the WORST Yogi Bear cartoon. It's gross and too exaggerated. You can do that..to an extent...but characters come first, not the gag. Take a look at the Tennessee Tuxedo cartoons made for Trix's Silly Channel. They're animated well because it is the times now (no more limited animation). They still made sure not to over exaggerate the cartoons. The key is to make it look like Looney Tunes first...not exactly Ren and Stimpy. Take a look for yourself:
Mister Bighead
2015-02-16T14:02:33Z
I apologize for bringing up an old thread, but something related to the topic just occurred to me.

I was thinking short reboots of the Hanna-Barbera characters could be done in varying artistic styles. Cartoon Network used to do this sort of thing in the past. There was an Atom Ant short done in some sort of a cut-out/scrapbook style as well as a Jonny Quest short done with figurines representing a board game. These were played to death on Boomerang for years. (Do they still do that to this day?) I think they should make some new ones.

I also believe they should stay true to the original characters. I don't think they should go the Family Guy/Adult Swim route with these. If they want to try new things with the characters and their settings, I'm all for it (as long as the characters don't go too out of character).
LuckyToon
2015-02-17T21:33:25Z
Originally Posted by: Mister Bighead 


I also believe they should stay true to the original characters. I don't think they should go the Family Guy/Adult Swim route with these. If they want to try new things with the characters and their settings, I'm all for it (as long as the characters don't go too out of character).



Actually, the reboots will keep the characters how the way they were before. So no worries, even if it will have the Looney Tunes and Tex Avery humor as well as the Ren & Stimpy facial expressions, it doesn't mean I will change the characters completely.
rodineisilveira
2015-06-15T12:29:59Z
Originally Posted by: Toadette 

I hope I don't appear too harsh here. (Hey-hey-hey!)

You don't need Ren & Stimpy animation for wonderful facial expressions. (Heck, limited animation doesn't always mean bland animation.) The original cartoons, especially the first season of the Huckleberry Hound Show, had their moments of very fun animation and expressions.

Said animation was done by professionals like Carlo Vinci, Mike Lah, Ken Muse, Lew Marshall, George Nicholas (who joined beginning with Huck's second season), Ed Love (ditto), Dick Lundy (also a second-seasoner), and Don Patterson (same here) who are dead now. Most likely the animation today would be outsourced to some outfit where differentiation between animators is practically impossible.

And the designers, like Ed Benedict, Walt Clinton, Dick Bickenbach, Tony Rivera, and even Iwao Takamoto, are mostly dead too. (There's Jerry Eisenberg, but he's quite old now...by the time you could ever pitch this project to WBA, he'll probably be dead.)

Richard H. Thomas and Fernando Montealegre are dead; I believe Art Lozzi is still alive, but he's living in Greece.

Mike Maltese and Warren Foster--who, of course, were Looney Tunes writers as well, and in fact reused some gags and routines from Looney Tunes--are dead. Charlie Shows and Dan Gordon are dead. Earl Kress is dead. Tony Benedict (who has a lovely blog here ) is retired, and like Eisenberg will probably be gone in a few decades.

Daws Butler and Don Messick are dead.

And, to sum it all up, cel animation itself is dead as a "mainstream" medium.

Of course, I could just be a fuddy-duddy. Maybe, like the [mickey] shorts, there's still potential for new good shorts featuring Yogi, Huck, the meeces, Quick Draw, Snooper and Blabber, and Augie Doggie. But if there aren't any decent writers and animators and designers (and voice actors!) on board who love these characters and know what makes them tick, then leave well enough alone.



I've been visited the Tony Benedict's blog. It's very cool and I've sent many commentaries there.

rodineisilveira
2015-06-15T13:10:54Z
My bets for the new Hanna-Barbera reboots would be the following:

- Writers: Mark Evanier, Tom Ruegger, Sharman di Vono, Michael Ryan, Lisa Maliani, Neal Barbera, Sholly Fisch, Steve Marmel, Lane Raichert, Sylvia Edwards, John Loy, Tony Benedict.
- Designers: Scott Shaw, Scott Jeralds, Mark Christiansen, Mike Fontanelli.
- Producers: Jayne Barbera, Tony Cervone, Jerry Eisenberg.
- Directors: Scott Jeralds, Flammarion Ferreira, Rumen Petkov, Tony Cervone.
- Animation: would be made by Fil-Cartoons from Philippines.

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ParamountCartoons
2015-06-15T13:34:33Z
Originally Posted by: rodineisilveira 

My bets for the new Hanna-Barbera reboots would be the following:

- Writers: Mark Evanier, Tom Ruegger, Sharman di Vono, Michael Ryan, Lisa Maliani, Neal Barbera, Sholly Fisch.
- Designers: Scott Shaw, Scott Jeralds, Mark Christiansen, Mike Fontanelli.
- Producers: Jayne Barbera, Sander Schwarz, Tony Cervone.
- Directors: Scott Jeralds.
- Animation: would be made by Fil-Cartoons from Philippines.



Nooooo! Not Sander Scwartz! Anyone but HIM!
rodineisilveira
2015-06-15T14:59:52Z
I've erased Sander Schwarz from my list of suggestions.





rodineisilveira
2015-06-15T19:14:27Z
Look at the new updates that I've made on my list.


Bobby Bickert
2015-06-15T23:28:47Z
"Daws Butler Jr." (Earl Kress) is deceased.
rodineisilveira
2015-06-16T11:39:58Z
I've erased Daws Butler Jr. from my list.



rodineisilveira
2015-06-23T21:11:51Z
I've included new updates on my post. Enjoy to see them.