nickramer
4 months ago


And "The Rude Intruder" missed a chance to have a cameo by Wally Walrus.

Originally Posted by: Bobby Bickert 



Considering who was directing these shorts by this point, it was lucky that Wally wasn't in any of them.
Bobby Bickert
4 months ago
I'd better comment about this morning's "The Woody Woodpecker Show" today since my sister is coming over here tomorrow...

I'm surprised that no one else has said anything about "The Bandmaster" looking like it was transferred from VHS, complete with tracking problems at the end. (And the Universal logo that was tacked on would have been more at home in front of Bride of Frankenstein, Dracula's Daughter, or any of the other classic Universal horror movies from the 1930's (pre-1939).)

Another "repeat". (But the first time I watched it, I missed that it sounds like Daws Butler did Woody's sneeze, just like in "Chili Con Corny".)

The only cartoons I hadn't seen before were the Chilly Willy cartoon (which definitely needs restoration) and the Inspector Willoughby cartoon.

I must not have seen "The Sliphorn King of Polaroo" in awhile (even though I have it on a bootleg VHS tape that I bought at the FX collectibles show in Orlando over twenty years ago), because I never noticed that the recurring penguin wearing a red hat looks a lot like the original Chilly Willy.

And I must not have seen "Banquest Busters" in awhile because I never noticed that the doorbell plays "You're A Horse's Ass", just like in "Wacky Bye Baby". Also, wasn't Walter Lantz a gag writer for Mack Sennett? The gag of a pie coming through a telephone during the pie fight was lifted directly from a Mack Sennett short. (I don't know which one because I saw it in a compilation of clips. Another clip was of someone using a collapsible top hat to launch pies.)

The guy who tries to give someone a hotfoot in "The Bandmaster" looks familiar. Maybe a caricature of Fred Moore? According to Of Mice and Magic he was one of the animators who worked on "The Bandmaster".
Bobby Bickert
3 months ago
Two "repeats" in the March 23rd broadcast of "The Woody Woodpecker Show". MeTV has shown most of the Woody Woodpecker cartoons from the 1940's, but there are still plenty of cartoons from the 1950's through the mid-1960's that they haven't shown yet, including "Termites From Mars", "Under the Counter Spy", "Bunco Busters", "Three Little Woodpeckers", and quite a few with Gabby Gator.

Partly because of the "repeats", there were only three cartoons that I hadn't seen before, "Sleepy Time Chimes", "Charlie's Mother-In-Law" and "Truant Student".

Smedley only has a single line in "Hot and Cold Penguin", and it could be a reused recording from "I'm Cold". Was Daws Butler too busy working on the early Hanna-Barbera TV shows? Was he ill? Or was it a conscious decision by Alex Lovy, who's credited as the writer as well as the director of "Hot and Cold Penguin", to make Smedley nearly as mute as Chilly?

It was strange seeing "ACME" in a non-WB cartoon. And Charlie Beary actually got a happy ending.

Also, I got to watch all of Saturday Morning Cartoons this past Saturday because my sister (and her family) spent the day at Busch Gardens. "The Tom and Jerry Show" had only one Tom and Jerry cartoon and two Tex Avery cartoons. Was this the first time this has been done since "The Tom and Jerry Show" was shortened to half an hour?

And I must not have seen "Tree For Two" in a while. That plot was recycled with Sylvester, then was recycled at least three times at DePatie-Freleng, with the Inspector, the Tijuana Toads, and the Dogfather.
Bobby Bickert
3 months ago

Two "repeats" in the March 23rd broadcast of "The Woody Woodpecker Show". MeTV has shown most of the Woody Woodpecker cartoons from the 1940's, but there are still plenty of cartoons from the 1950's through the mid-1960's that they haven't shown yet, including "Termites From Mars", "Under the Counter Spy", "Bunco Busters", "Three Little Woodpeckers", and quite a few with Gabby Gator.

Originally Posted by: Bobby Bickert 



Maybe someone from MeTV looks at the IAD Forums. The March 30th broadcast of "The Woody Woodpecker Show" included "Under the Counter Spy" and a cartoon with Gabby Gator, "Rocket Racket". But "Under the Counter Spy" had added Gracie Lantz narration (though at least it was minimal) and butchered opening titles:



But at least it had the correct Universal-International logo. Apparently an even worse version of "Under the Counter Spy" was released on DVD:



And there were two more "repeats". I could understand repeating "Crazy House" since there aren't that many Andy Panda cartoons compared to some of the other Lantz characters. (And I'm sure that MeTV won't show the first three because of the pygmies.) But there are still quite a few cartoons from the 1950's and the early 1960's, like "The Legend of Rockabye Point", "Hold That Rock" (which was storyboarded by Tex Avery) and the two with Wally Walrus, that could have been shown instead of a repeat of one from the early 1970's.

Only one cartoon that I hadn't seen before, "Charlie the Rainmaker". Going by the credits, I thought that it was going to have a guest appearance by Woody Woodpecker. But either someone at the Lantz studio made a mistake or the credits from a Woody Woodpecker cartoon that included voicework by Paul Frees got recycled.

Except for the Chilly Willy cartoon, the rest of the cartoons were ones I well remember from my childhood. (A clip from "Crazy House" was used in the opening of "Woody Woodpecker and Friends" on Tampa's WTOG 44 circa 1979-1980.) But I must not have seen "The Egg Cracker Suite" in a long time. I was quite surprised to hear June Foray in a cartoon from the early 1940's. (One of these days I'm going to order her autobiography from Barnes & Noble.) And she used her "Boy Scout" voice over ten years before she used it for Knothead, and over fifteen years before she used it for Rocket J. Squirrel. Yet another classic cartoon that used the Hungarian Rhapsody #2. And Ben Hardaway got to co-direct again.

"Kiddie League" is another cartoon I well remember from my childhood. (Along with another cartoon that "Chester" was in, "The Bird Who Came To Dinner".) But I'm surprised that "Chester" putting a gun to his head didn't shock me when I was a child, even though it turned out to be a water pistol. Another early appearance by the character who became Inspector Willoughby (and Ranger Willoughby). Dal McKennon voiced at least four characters. (And Daws Butler voiced all four characters in "Gooney's Goofy Landings", as well as narrating it, not a single one of them a celebrity impersonation.)

Also, "The Tom and Jerry Show" ended with a Barney Bear cartoon instead of a Tom and Jerry cartoon. I wonder if this is going to become the norm?

Bobby Bickert
3 months ago
Only one "repeat" this past Saturday morning, and it was Andy Panda, so it's understandable.

The only other cartoon that I had seen before was "Box Car Bandit", which is another Woody Woodpecker cartoon that I have a long history with. When my family moved to Brandon in 1972, there was an ice cream parlor called Dipper Dan in one of the strip shopping centers. (I recently found out from the Tampa History Facebook page that Dipper Dan was actually a chain.) Sometime in the 1990's the name was changed to Big Dipper. An article in The Brandon News about the name change included "If you grew up in Brandon in the 1970's, you probably had a birthday party at Dipper Dan.". Yes, yes I did. There are slides of it. I also attended birthday parties for other kids at Dipper Dan. The birthday boy or girl got to choose one of two "movies" to watch, Woody Woodpecker or Zippy the Chimp. All of the other kids always wanted to watch Zippy the Chimp. When I had my birthday party at Dipper Dan, I finally got to see Woody Woodpecker. It was a B & W print, silent, with title cards. I couldn't remember the title but I remembered that it was set on a train and that one of the title cards was Woody saying "Ticket please". Nearly fifty years later, I finally got to see a "proper" version of it.

Interesting that "Greedy Gabby Gator" pitted Gabby against a non-anthropomorphic crocodile that apparently is a cannibal. And "Yukon Have It" had a nice twist on the old "looking both ways before crossing" gag.
RareSox
3 months ago
With the Lantz shorts now cemented on Toon in with Me, my work with the YTP community is done.

Now we just need to get the remaining Lantz stuff, but i think we'll have it easier getting Krazy Kat and Scrappy onto MeTV first.
Bobby Bickert
3 months ago
Belated (and brief) commentary on the April 13th broadcast of "The Woody Woodpecker Show". (I was waiting for the activity in this sub-forum to die down, which hasn't happened yet.)

The Beary Family cartoon was the only one that I hadn't seen before, partly because there were two "repeats".

Even though I had seen "Woodpecker in the Rough" and "Wrestling Wrecks" years ago, I guess I never noticed that "Bull Dozer" is in both cartoons.

And Leonard Maltin must have forgotten about "Fish Hooked" when he wrote Of Mice and Magic. ("...usually in the guise of a bear named Smedley...")
Bobby Bickert
2 months ago
Only one "repeat" this past Saturday morning, and it was a good one. (And it was unedited, unlike the version posted on the "official" Woody Woodpecker YouTube channel.)

The only cartoons that I hadn't seen before were the one with Inspector Willoughby and the Beary Family cartoon.

Michael Maltese managed to incorporate "pronoun trouble" into a Woody Woodpecker cartoon. And in "Tricky Trout" Wally Walrus called Chilly Willy a "termite". I think he mixed up his adversaries.
Bobby Bickert
2 months ago
Not only were there two "repeats" this past Saturday morning, this was the third time that MeTV has shown "Ballyhooey". (Though I somehow missed that Woody seems to be coming out of an outhouse toward the beginning during previous viewings.)

The only cartoon that I hadn't seen before was the one with The Beary Family. If MeTV had shown either the Swing Symphony "$21 A Day (Once A Month)" or the Inspector Willoughby cartoon "Hyde and Sneak" instead of "Bugged in a Rug", and had shown either "Fractured Friendship" or "Chilly Chums" as the Chilly Willy cartoon, Woody would have been in all seven cartoons.

I wonder what was up with Smokey the Bear appearing in "Red Riding Hoodlum", not too long after appearing in "In the Bag"? (And drawn very realistically in both cartoons.) It was kind of strange hearing June Foray voice a "Granny" in a cartoon from another studio. (And this time she got screen credit, unlike "Get Lost".)

Also, I wonder if Woody eating bird seed like "breakfast that talks to you" in "After the Ball" was a reference to Kellogg's sponsoring (the original) "The Woody Woodpecker Show"? And were bowling balls ever made of wood? My mom's father's bowling ball was made of something called "Ebonite". (And when I league bowled in the early 1980's, someone had a clear ball with a large (I assume artificial) rose inside. It was always strange seeing that ball go down the lanes.)
Bobby Bickert
2 months ago
Last Saturday's "The Woody Woodpecker Show" started off with four cartoons in a row that I hadn't seen before. But that was followed by two "repeats" in a row (though I somehow missed that one of the sheep is named Gracie the first time I watched "The Dog That Cried Wolf") and one that I had already seen.

Sid Marcus must have really liked "Half Baked Alaska". Plot elements were recycled in "Teeny Weeny Meany", and the ending was recycled twice, in "Pesty Guest" and in "Teeny Weeny Meany". (Also, the "Crazy Guggenheim" wolf from "Three Little Woodpeckers" was recycled in "Rough Riding Hood".)

"Sissy Sheriff" was yet another Western-themed cartoon with morbid gags like "Tar With A Star" and "Two Gun Goofy".

And Charlie Beary got a (semi) happy ending.

EDIT: On Saturday, May 11th, the cable TV here went out around 7:30 AM, as did Internet and land line phone service, which are all from the same provider, Spectrum. Apparently the entire state of Florida was affected. Cable TV service was restored sometime between 2:30 PM and 3:00 PM, and Internet and land line phone service were restored sometime between 3:00 PM and 3:30 PM. So I didn't get to watch "The Woody Woodpecker Show" (or the Popeye cartoon on Turner Classic Movies and the "Tom and Jerry" episode of Screen Directors Playhouse with Arthur Q. Bryan that aired right before it). So you all are spared my usual "color commentary" for a week. (And it looks like I missed three Woody Woodpecker cartoons, a Chilly Willy cartoon and a Beary Family cartoon that I haven't seen, plus I missed the first half of MeTV's first broadcast of "The Pied Piper of Basin Street" (as well as all of "The Hollywood Matador" and "Room and Wrath") because I fell asleep.)

EDIT #2: It happened again yesterday morning. This time the cable TV, Internet and land line phone service were out before 7:00 AM. Internet and land line phone service were restored sometime between 9:00 AM and 9:30 AM, but cable TV wasn't restored until after 10:00 AM. So I missed "The Woody Woodpecker Show" (and the Popeye cartoon on Turner Classic Movies) for the second week in a row. So now you all are spared my usual "color commentary" for two weeks in a row. (And this time I missed at least three Woody Woodpecker cartoons and a Beary Family cartoon that I haven't seen. I think that I've seen "The Tenant's Racket", but I'm not positive.)
Bobby Bickert
a month ago
I finally got to see "The Woody Woodpecker Show" this past Saturday, after missing it for two weeks in a row. (It would be nice if I would get a credit on a future Spectrum bill.) Of course this past Saturday there were only two cartoons that I hadn't seen, "Paste Makes Waste" and "Feudin Figntin-n-Fussin". (And Leonard Maltin must not have watched "Deep Freeze Squeeze" before he wrote Of Mice and Magic. "Penguins don't eat dogs. I am a dog.")

I kept hearing the "Maw and Paw" theme song on the soundtrack of "Feudin Fightin-n-Fussin", even though these were different characters (albeit characters who called each other "Maw" and "Paw", and who were voiced by Dal McKennon and Gracie Lantz) and a different music director.

And "ACME" was used in a Lantz cartoon again.
Bobby Bickert
a month ago
Even though there were no less than three "repeats" in the episode of "The Woody Woodpecker Show" that aired on June 1st, I still got to see three cartoons that I hadn't seen before. (Though according to a YouTube member, a Japanese stereotype was edited out of "Fowled Up Falcon".) And I now know the title of a Woody Woodpecker cartoon that I watched as part of "The Woody and Popeye Show" while visiting an aunt and uncle who lived in Georgia in the summer of 1984. All I remembered was that a genie was in it, and that characters got a pie in the face.

Someone at Lantz must have really liked using "Fowled Up" in the title of a cartoon. In less than a year, I've seen three examples, one with Maggie and Sam, one with the Beary Family, and now one with Woody.



EDIT: I found an uncensored version of "Fowled Up Falcon":

Bobby Bickert
a month ago
Even with three "repeats", I watched three Woody Woodpecker cartoons and a Chilly Willy cartoon that I hadn't seen before last Saturday morning.

Usually I can't tell if a cartoon has been "restored". But the print of "Little Skeeter" that aired last Saturday morning was definitely not "restored". Surely Universal had a better print of "Little Skeeter" in their vaults than that dirty one? (And it sounded like Daws Butler did Woody's scream of pain in "Little Skeeter".)

It was strange hearing "Dance of the Marionettes" (the theme from Alfred Hitchcock Presents) in a Chilly Willy cartoon. (And I know that Disney used it in the Silly Symphony "Hell's Bells".)

And you'd think that Woody would know better than to scratch his head with the barrel of a loaded gun. (Though Woody is crazy.)

(Also, I got to watch all of Saturday Morning Cartoons because my sister was in another state. I don't think that I had ever seen "Dog Tired" before. I don't remember seeing a Two Curious Puppies cartoon with the original titles. And it was strange hearing Billy Bletcher as the voice of Barney Bear. I'm used to Paul Frees, or Barney not talking.)
Bobby Bickert
a month ago
Upcoming episodes of "Toon In With Me":

On Wednesday, June 19th:

"All That Taz"-"Bill and Toony celebrate the Tasmanian Devil's 70th birthday."

On Thursday, July 20th:

"Beck's Best"-"Cartoon historian and friend of the show, Jerry Beck, picks some of his favorite cartoons of all time."
Bobby Bickert
a month ago
Of the seven cartoons that aired on "The Woody Woodpecker Show" this past Saturday, the only one that I hadn't seen before was "Woody the Freeloader", partly because there were three "repeats" (again).

"Tomcat Combat" was another cartoon that definitely had not been "restored". (Though there wasn't as much dirt on the print as "Little Skeeter" the previous Saturday.) "Tomcat Combat" is another cartoon that I well remember from my childhood. But as a child I never noticed the proto-Inspector Willoughby/Ranger Willoughby in this cartoon and others like "Kiddie League" and "Billion Dollar Boner", maybe because I had never heard of Inspector Willoughby and Ranger Willoughby until I checked Of Mice and Magic out of the library when I was in high school. Someone at Lantz, maybe Paul J. Smith, seemed to like to recycle character designs. The cat in "Tomcat Combat" looked just like the cat in "Tree's A Crowd". (And one of the penguins in "The Sliphorn King of Polaroo" was recycled as the first character design for Chilly Willy.)

"Pesky Pelican" was the source of the clips that appeared before the Chilly Willy cartoon in the syndicated "The Woody Woodpecker Show" from the late 1980's:

Bobby Bickert
23 days ago
Only two "repeats" this past Saturday, and all three Woody Woodpecker cartoons were ones that I had never seen.

"Charlie in Hot Water" was definitely not "restored". In addition to dirt on the print, the colors were off. "Charlie in Hot Water" also has the "honor" (?) of being the first Beary Family cartoon that I saw, as part of "The Woody and Popeye Show" while visiting an aunt and uncle who lived in Georgia in the summer of 1984. Even back then, I knew that turning on a gas appliance to light it without having a lit match or a working lighter at hand was an old gag.

Smedley's behavior in "Fish and Chips" was very reminiscent of how he talked and moved in "I'm Cold". I wonder if Jack Hannah watched "I'm Cold" beforehand to learn from "the master"?

"Get Lost! Little Doggy" had no screen credit for whoever voiced the man at the beginning. My wild guess is Dal McKennon, going by the man's scream of pain.

And the reference to atomic bomb tests in "Half Empty Saddles" definitely would have gone over my head if I had watched it when I was younger.
nickramer
23 days ago
According to the old Golden Age Cartoon's Lantz-O-Pedia section that's on this site (and is still mostly broken), the man in "Get Lost! Little Doggy" was Walter Lantz himself (although, Dal did do the scream).
Bobby Bickert
22 days ago
So maybe Walter Lantz also voiced the man in "Kitty From the City", which also only had a voice credit for Grace Stafford.

Since the subject of voices has been brought up...

I'm wondering if the hiccups in the Swing Symphony "Jukebox Jamboree" were recycled Mel Blanc recordings? The same hiccups are heard in "Andy Panda's Pop", and that's definitely Mel Blanc as the man on the phone at the end.

And I'm wondering if June Foray voiced the "Carmen Miranda" lobster in "Jukebox Jamboree"? I can hear similarities to her "Natasha Fatale" voice, and she did voicework for another Swing Symphony, "The Egg Cracker Suite".

Not much else to say about this morning's episode of "The Woody Woodpecker Show", since there were no less than four "repeats". (Though at least most of them were from the 1940's.) So "The Big Bite" was the only cartoon that I hadn't seen before. But I must not have seen "Romp in a Swamp" in a while, because I thought that Gabby Gator didn't start wearing a yellow vest until after Jack Hannah arrived at Lantz. And Daws Butler had started tweaking the voice he used for Gabby, instead of just using his Southern Wolf/Smedley/Huckleberry Hound voice, before Jack Hannah's arrival.

EDIT: All seven cartoons that aired on "The Woody Woodpecker Show" on July 6th were "repeats", which is ridiculous. There are a lot of Woody Woodpecker cartoons that MeTV hasn't shown yet, including "Destination Meatball", "Helter Shelter" (written by Michael Maltese), "Witch Crafty", "Belle Boys", "Real Gone Woody" (written by Michael Maltese), "Woodpecker From Mars", "International Woodpecker", "To Catch A Woodpecker", "Billion Dollar Boner", "Bats in the Belfry", "Southern Fried Hospitality", "The Bird Who Came To Dinner", "Gabby's Diner", "Franken-Stymied", "Voo-Doo Boo-Boo", "Woody's Clip Joint", "Three Little Woodpeckers", "Birds of a Feather", "Monster of Ceremonies", "One Horse Town", and I'm sure that there are cartoons from 1965 to 1972 that I've never seen before. There's at least one more Knothead and Splinter cartoon that MeTV hasn't shown yet. (I can't remember the title, but it has a witch in it.) There are a couple of wartime Andy Panda cartoons that MeTV hasn't shown yet, and I don't think that there's any "politically incorrect" content in them. There are Chilly Willy cartoons that MeTV hasn't shown yet, including "The Legend of Rockabye Point", "Fractured Friendship", "Chilly Chums", "Chilly's Ice Folly", and I'm sure that there are cartoons from 1965 to 1972 that I've never seen before. There are probably Beary Family cartoons that MeTV hasn't shown yet, though I'm less familiar with this series. And I thought of three one-shot cartoons from the 1940's that MeTV hasn't shown yet: one about a fair ("For the last time lady, no, I haven't seen your little boy!" "Well here he is! Take a good look!"), one about nursery rhymes (Peas porridge hot, Peas porridge cold, Peas porridge in the pot, nine days old" *pause* "Nine days old? PU!"), and one about American history. And MeTV hasn't shown "Toyland Premiere" yet. (Though I'm sure it would have to be edited. I didn't know if that character was a human or an animal when I watched "Toyland Premiere" on "Woody Woodpecker and Friends" on WTOG 44 in 1979 or 1980.)

(I edited this into an old post because I didn't think that it was worth making a new post about it.)
nickramer
22 days ago

So maybe Walter Lantz also voiced the man in "Kitty From the City", which also only had a voice credit for Grace Stafford.

Originally Posted by: Bobby Bickert 



I'm pretty sure that was Dal.
Bobby Bickert
2 days ago
MeTV did much better with "The Woody Woodpecker Show" this past Saturday morning. It was kind of spooky that three of the five cartoons that they hadn't shown before were mentioned by me in my previous post in this thread. The only cartoons that I hadn't seen before were "The Case of the Maltese Hen" and "Science Friction". (Hopefully MeTV hasn't gotten any backlash for showing the former.)

"One Horse Town" is another Woody Woodpecker cartoon that I have a long history with. I saw it before Bon Voyage Charlie Brown (And Don't Come Back!) when it was in theaters in 1980. For some reason Tampa's WTOG 44 didn't show Lantz cartoons newer than 1965 on "Woody Woodpecker and Friends" (on weekday mornings) and "Bugs, Woody and Friends" (on Sundays). (They also didn't show cartoons with Windy and Breezy, Fatso Bear, Inspector Willoughby, and the Beary Family.) So I had never seen Woody paired up with Sugarfoot before.

I noticed that Benny Rubin was credited with voicework in "Science Friction". I know him mainly for his occasional appearances in Three Stooges shorts from the 1950's like "Space Ship Sappy". Comments on YouTube have said that he voiced "Charlie" in the 1960's TV Magoos. But someone on GAC Forums said that it was Jerry Hausner.

(Also, I got to watch all of Saturday Morning Cartoons since my sister caught the coronavirus (for the second time). It looks like "Love and Curses" was a victim of DVNR.)

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