Created & posted by tonyboy85 on:
July 25, 2013, 12:22:53 pm.

I think that "Tiny Toon Adventures" & "Animaniacs" are the 1990's descendants of Looney Tunes,
because their humor, their characters' personalities, & their comedic dialogue have always reminded us
of the pre-1965 classic era of the "Looney Tunes" & "Merrie Melodies" cartoons.
& according to these details, their forms & personalities/behaviors shows that they have
an official relationship (not blood relationship) with the original cast of Looney Tunes.


"Tiny Toon Adventures"

Looney Tunes: Bugs Bunny
Tiny Toons: Buster & Babs Bunny

Looney Tunes: Daffy Duck
Tiny Toons: Plucky Duck

Looney Tunes: Porky Pig
Tiny Toons: Hamton Pig

Looney Tunes: Elmer Fudd
Tiny Toons: Elmyra Duff

Looney Tunes: Yosemite Sam
Tiny Toons: Montana Max

Looney Tunes: Tasmanian Devil ("Taz" for short)
Tiny Toons: Dizzy Devil

Looney Tunes: Sylvester
Tiny Toons: Furrball

Looney Tunes: Tweety
Tiny Toons: Sweetie

Looney Tunes: Sniffles
Tiny Toons: Sneezer

Looney Tunes: The Bookworm
Tiny Toons: The Other Bookworm

Looney Tunes: Pepe Le Pew
Tiny Toons: Fifi La Fume

Looney Tunes: Wile E. Coyote
Tiny Toons: Calamity Coyote

Looney Tunes: Road Runner
Tiny Toons: Little Beeper

Looney Tunes: Marvin the Martian
Tiny Toons: Marcia the Martian

Looney Tunes: Foghorn Leghorn
Tiny Toons: Fowlmouth

Looney Tunes: Beaky Buzzard
Tiny Toons: Concord Condor

Looney Tunes: Marc Anthony
Tiny Toons: Barky Marky

Looney Tunes: Sam Sheepdog
Tiny Toons: Saul Sheepdog

Looney Tunes: The Dodo
Tiny Toons: Gogo Dodo

Fact: The Tiny Toons counterpart of Looney Tunes' Speedy Gonzales is named Lightning Rodriguez,
& originally he was going to be the recurring character of "Tiny Toon Adventures", but his recurring role
was cancelled during production due to the cartoon staff's reasons, but he did have small appearances in
the 2 episodes "You Asked for It" & "The Acme Bowl".

& Another Fact:
Although "Tiny Toon Adventures" was the 1990's version of "Looney Tunes",
there are new original characters created for this show:
Shirley "the Loon" McLoon (a Tiny Toons version of the new age believer, Shirley MacLaine).
(note: Shirley MacLaine was Shirley the Loon's idol)
Arnold the Pit Bull (based on Arnold Schwarzenegger, like Jorgen Von Strangle from "The Fairly OddParents").
The evil rats named Roderick & Rhubella.
Mary Melody (her name is based on the name of WB's other theatrical cartoon series "Merrie Melodies").
Byron Basset.
Mr. Skullhead.


"Animaniacs"

Yakko, Wakko & Dot are based on the characters of the black & white Looney Tunes & Merrie Melodies cartoons of the early 1930's
(Bosko & Honey, Foxy & Roxy, Goopy Geer, & Piggy & Fluffy).

Slappy Squirrel was an old retired cartoon character who once had fame & glory as the star of the "Looney Tunes" & "Merrie Melodies" cartoons,
But although she is octogenarian and is on retirement, she can still outwit the enemies & fight back at them with cartoon violence.

Pinky & the Brain are beloved cartoon villains that are scheming diabolical deeds but are always foiled, humiliated & damaged in the end,
like Looney Tunes' Yosemite Sam, Sylvester (when he's against Tweety & Speedy), Wile E. Coyote (& Ralph Wolf) & Marvin the Martian.
& Brain's genius plans always backfires on him and Pinky, like Wile E. Coyote.

Reply by Toonatic on: July 25, 2013, 08:02:20 pm.

You forgot:

Looney Tunes: Elmer Fudd
Tiny Toons: Elmerya




Reply by Ivellios on: July 25, 2013, 08:25:17 pm.

Looney Tunes: Elmer Fudd
Tiny Toons: Elmerya

To be more precise: Elmyra Duff. In Polish version called Elmirka.

A girl who truly loves animals! But animals don't necessarily have to love her...




Reply by tonyboy85 on: July 31, 2013, 12:15:14 pm.

Does anybody want to post more discussions and opinions in here (if any of you really want to)?

anybody? :-s




Reply by Ivellios on: July 31, 2013, 05:34:01 pm.

Babs Bunny seems to be partially based on Bugs Bunny's girlfriend Honey Bunny, especially in version portrayed by Chuck Jones (they have similar colors and clothes and they both have bows on their ears).




Reply by King Delbert on: July 31, 2013, 06:35:02 pm.

Does anybody want to post more discussions and opinions in here (if any of you really want to)?

anybody? :-s

Absolutely. I saw some Animaniacs episodes recently on a vacation, and the comedy would have been what the Looney Tunes would have been if they continued well into the 90's. The jokes that the characters do are incredibly funny. "What can you tell me about the poets of the 16th century? They're all dead!" And of course the Tiny Toons and Animaniacs helped keep the classic spirit of animation alive again like the Nicktoons and Disney movis such as Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King.




Reply by speedy fast on: August 05, 2013, 09:22:13 am.

Back in my days I was wrong about certain Tiny Toons counterpartes.

I thought that Sneezer was based on Speedy. At the time I didn't know about Sneezer (I didn't watch Looney Tunes on the Turner networks much, and most of my exposure to pre-1948 cartoons were video releases focusing on the main Looney Tunes characters).

For a long time I didn't realize Elmyria was based on Elmer - didn't notice name similarities, face similarities, the fact that either of them mispronounced words, and until I got older didn't know Elmyra's last name was Duff which is almost Fudd spelled backwards (but even if I did know her last name I wouldn't have realized it). I should have been clued in by the fact that she chose Elmer as her mentor in Fields of Honey (and for many years was confused by that). As a kid I thought she was based on Tweety's unnamed owners (when they weren't Sylvester's) and that Merrie Melody was based on Granny (since she owned Sweetie).

I thought that Egghead Jr., the bald kid from the episode where Plucky cheats, was based on Elmer Fudd, mainly because of his bald head. It would make more sense if he was based on Egghead/Early Elmer. At the time I didn't know about Egghead (and when I did, from a public domain VHS, I didn't realize he was a Warner Bros. character).

I thought Byron was based on Barnyard Dog, mainly because he was a dog (even if he has a nicer personality). And I thought Shirley was based on Miss Prissy, due to Fowlmouth's crush on her.

Never was a huge Tiny Toons fan, but the episode where Buster tries to cure Fowlmouth's swearing problem was pretty funny. xD

Cartoon Research: Animation Anecdotes #215
By Jim Korkis




Excerpt from the mini-article titled "Duck Dodger Jr. and An Unwelcome Third Dimension.":

Jim Korkis:
"On the Tiny Toons television series, the 1991 episode featuring Plucky Duck as Duck Dodgers Jr.
was storyboarded by the talented Mike Kazaleh. Maurice Noble and Wayne Kaatz were also given credit for scripting the episode.

Kazaleh also did the character model sheets, especially when he discovered that
Warners only had one model sheet of Marvin the Martian and it was one that
animation legend Chuck Jones had drawn in 1980 for the film Duck Dodgers and the Return of the 24 ½ Century.

The layouts for the episode were done by the legendary Maurice Noble
but the background artists at Wang Films in Taipei (who were doing multiple projects for different studios) couldn't believe that
Warners wanted the backgrounds flat (as they were in the classic 1953 WB cartoon designed by Noble and featuring the Daffy Duck character)
so they used an airbrush to give them more dimension.".




Chase Pritchard's reply to this subject,
via comments:

Chase Pritchard:
"In regards to Duck Dodgers Jr, there’s a bit more to the story. According to The Noble Approach (an excellent book I highly recommend),
Maurice "proceeded to work in the same manner he always had," which involved "analyzing the story" and writing notes that would "improve the storytelling visually."
According to David Marshall (the overseas supervisor), what happened was that the background painters at Wang were "jazzed" at what they had,
but were specifically told by the producers to not follow any of notes Noble wrote. Eventually, he was then fired by Eddie Fitzgerald,
which led him to say "I tried to make a good cartoon, and got fired for it." ".




http://cartoonresearch.c...animation-anecdotes-215/ 

Yosemite Sam's name is taken from Yosemite, an area of U.S.A.

Montana Max's name is taken from Montana, the State of U.S.A.

& according to Jim Korkis,
The pre-production early names of Yosemite Sam are
"Texas Tiny", "Wyoming Willie", & "Denver Dan".



(Jim Korkis' information is written in:
"Cartoon Research: Animation Anecdotes #222", By Jim Korkis:
mini-article: "Where Do The Stories Come From?".
http://cartoonresearch.c...animation-anecdotes-222/  .)

There was an unproduced Tiny Toons episode, "Hi, Spirits." It was completely written by Bob Camp and Jim Smith, and storyboarded as well. It would involve Gogo Dodo and Hamton Pig looking to use a big haunted house as a clubhouse for the Pig Scouts. But a meek little Droopy-esque ghost (voiced by Don Messick) keeps trying to scare them and keeps failing. Such notable attempts include using a knight of armor (which Hamton mistakes as a wood-burning stove), hiding in a piece of bread (but only for Hamton and Gogo to make a sandwich with that gets fed to a yak), even placing an ACME Rubber Bloody Head on Hamton (to which Elmer, the Bloody Head Fairy, takes the head and leaves a quarter), but nothing works.

Does that plot sound familiar? If it does, it's because Steven Spielberg rejected this in favor of them doing the slightly similar-concept short "Boo Ha Ha." Bob Camp and Jim Smith then took their version to Spumco and re-worked it into the Ren and Stimpy episode "Haunted House!" Check it out:
http://www.whataboutthad...and-became-a-ren-stimpy/ 

I'm betting Eddie Fitzgerald would've directed it, and judging by the storyboards, either Wang Film Productions or Kennedy Cartoons would've animated it (or maybe even both.)

Interesting to see that the planned Tiny Toons episode became a Ren & Stimpy episode.

But I find it stupid that the uncut DVD set uses an edited version of "Haunted House!" I mean why?