I'm trying to get a definitive Terrytoons filmography.
In the past, I compared the following:
- the one from "Of Mice and Magic", by Leonard Maltin, that doesn't cover the post-1968 period;
- the original list compiled in 2014 in Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Terrytoons_animated_shorts&oldid=621721964). This Wikipedia article was the base for subsequent changes in Wiki itself and in an article of a deleted Terrytoons Fandom/Wikia domain;
- the 1957-1971 filmography compiled by Charles Brubaker in the old DFE domain of the defunct GAC page (https://web.archive.org/web/20150508225706/http://dfe.goldenagecartoons.com/terrytoons60s.htm)
- the Box Office Magazine listings of the 20th Century Fox-Terrytoons shorts (for the late 1957-1971 period, comparing with Brubaker's listing)
The 1930-1956 period seems straightforward. There were date and series differences between the unsourced but strangely precise Wikipedia list and Maltin's list. There were some films whose series neither Wikipedia nor Maltin got right.
Comparing Maltin's list to Brubaker's, Maltin missed a bunch of films from the post-1956 period. Further comparing Brubaker to Box Office Magazine, there are films not dated to month-precision, that Box Office lists with month-precision: if we assume the press releases are true, from 1964 onwards the Terrytoons schedule was simply one film per month.
Now I'm adding a 5th source: Gerald Hamonic's filmography, from his GREAT Terrytoons book. Unfortunately (for my personal taste) the list is in alphabetical order.
I didn't compare the whole 1930-1956 period from Hamonic. That would be painstaking... I only skimmed through some films for which Wikipedia and Maltin list the wrong series, and I could see that Hamonic got the series right.
In the post-1956 period, Hamonic's listing has differing dates in several films. BUT... His list LOOKS like a definitive thing. He lists theatrical releases from the 1920s (silent Fables) until 1975 (all originally made for TV). I didn't know that Fox was still releasing Terrytoons theatrically that late, the common knowledge of all the other listings was that the releases ended in 1971. And Hamonic states: "until at least 1975", i.e., those are just the latest KNOWN releases, there could be more, undocumented or undiscovered.
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EDIT: another feature that makes Hamonic's list seem definitive is that he wrote day-precise release dates for many films of the post-1956 period.
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So, I didn't care for date differences and series differences. I focused on the more chaotic period, post-1956. Taking Hamonic's list as the primary reference, the following divergences/uncertainties persist:
- Brubaker's list states that the Deputy Dawg episode "Shotgun Shambles" (also registered as "Shot Gun Shambles") was theatrically released in 1962. I couldn't find any other evidence that this film was released theatrically, it isn't listed as theatrical by Hamonic, only TV;
- Contrary to all the other sources, the Box Office Magazine listings always mention the December 1962 release as being actually "A Fight to the Finish", the 1947 film, explicitly stating that it was the Mighty Mouse reissue, not the Hector Heathcote episode "A Flight to the Finish". Probably the magazine or the people at Fox mismatched the film title?? Every serious source lists the Heathcote title;
- Lenburg's Hector Heathcote episode list, only in the 3rd edition of his Animated Cartoons Encyclopedia, is still the only book that mentions the namesake of this thread, "Foxed by a Fox", but it's weirdly listed in obscure nostalgia fanpages that don't seem to have been sourced from Lenburg. A case for the existence of this episode is that the commonly listed segments of the HH Show amount to 71, only 1 segment away from 72, that would allow for a perfect schedule of 36 two-segment presentations (1 Heathcote + 1 Sidney or Hashimoto) or 24 three-segment presentations (12 presentations with 2 Heathcotes + 1 Sidney or Hashimoto and 12 presentations with 1 Heathcote + 1 Sidney + 1 Hashimoto, do the math!).
Edited by user
2023-08-05T07:12:28Z
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Reason: Mighty Mouse mistype
I always come to TTTP in Exile in the hope of finding news about Warner announcing Tex Avery Collection.