tashlinfan44
2020-02-21T04:22:10Z
At the end of the restored print of “Milk and Money”, and in particular, the last scene (“here’s your money, Mister”), there is a noticeable drop in print quality. This is extremely similar to the drop in print quality in the last scene of the Popeye cartoon, “The Hungry Goat”, due to the ending having to be recreated. My question here is this: does anyone know why this drop in print quality occurs?
DevonB
2020-02-21T11:24:07Z
Originally Posted by: tashlinfan44 

At the end of the restored print of “Milk and Money”, and in particular, the last scene (“here’s your money, Mister”), there is a noticeable drop in print quality. This is extremely similar to the drop in print quality in the last scene of the Popeye cartoon, “The Hungry Goat”, due to the ending having to be recreated. My question here is this: does anyone know why this drop in print quality occurs?



It could have been a situation where the original negative was damaged, but it's hard to say. Often, the heads and tails of a film reel are the most affected.
tashlinfan44
2020-02-21T13:26:44Z
Originally Posted by: DevonB 

Originally Posted by: tashlinfan44 

At the end of the restored print of “Milk and Money”, and in particular, the last scene (“here’s your money, Mister”), there is a noticeable drop in print quality. This is extremely similar to the drop in print quality in the last scene of the Popeye cartoon, “The Hungry Goat”, due to the ending having to be recreated. My question here is this: does anyone know why this drop in print quality occurs?



It could have been a situation where the original negative was damaged, but it's hard to say. Often, the heads and tails of a film reel are the most affected.



That definitely makes sense. I guess I thought there was a more complex answer, but I didn’t realize that this must have been the only possibility. Thank you Mr. Baxter!
Justin Delbert
2020-02-21T13:43:08Z
Next time I watch it, I'll look, but basically how restoration works is that you restore from the best possible copies. Usually it is the original masters, but sometimes the original masters got damaged, so you have to find the next best thing. Reconstruction is always a major part of restoration. Gorilla My Dreams has such a thing (there is a quality change in the middle).
Justin Delbert
2020-02-21T13:46:12Z
Originally Posted by: tashlinfan44 

This is extremely similar to the drop in print quality in the last scene of the Popeye cartoon, “The Hungry Goat”, due to the ending having to be recreated.



Interestingly enough according to Jerry, they had to go with a copy from The Popeye Show to make a long story short. As a result since it came from either tape or standard def digital, there will be a HUGE quality drop there at the end of The Hungry Goat.
Mesterius
2020-02-21T16:15:34Z
Originally Posted by: Justin Delbert 

Originally Posted by: tashlinfan44 

This is extremely similar to the drop in print quality in the last scene of the Popeye cartoon, “The Hungry Goat”, due to the ending having to be recreated.



Interestingly enough according to Jerry, they had to go with a copy from The Popeye Show to make a long story short. As a result since it came from either tape or standard def digital, there will be a HUGE quality drop there at the end of The Hungry Goat.



The lost ending was recreated for Cartoon Network's The Popeye Show in the early 2000s. They decided to use that recreation on the 2008 DVD edition, and that's why the video quality drops noticeably compared to the rest of the cartoon.